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Help Newbie Buying Paint

Discussion in 'Painting and Converting' started by Griffen, Jul 25, 2017.

  1. Griffen
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    Griffen New Member

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    I started this hobby last week and was informed that I had to paint the figures. So I have a few questions

    1)How extensively do I need to paint the models to be playable in store?
    2)Do I have to use Citadel paints?
    3)What is a good amount to buy to have a decent verity to paint my starter box of Seraphon?
    4)Is it better to build then paint or paint in pieces? I ask because the shields and bases have blocked some areas of the models.
    4) Is it better to get paint from a craft store or the hobby store?
     
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  2. NIGHTBRINGER
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    NIGHTBRINGER Second Spawning

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    Minimum store requirements are typically quite basic. Remember that there people of vastly different painting abilities in this hobby, they can't afford to start alienating people. Of course the minimum requirement will vary store to store; around my area, 3 colour/paint schemes were the minimum.

    I feel that unless you don't care for painting at all, you won't have to concern yourself with minimums. That said, it never hurts to ask the manager of your store.

    Typically you can use any paints you want. GW may not allow you to bring in those paints (if you plan to paint at the store), but I doubt they would give you any hassle once your models have been painted.

    It depends on the painting scheme you come up with. I don't think there is a correct number. Come up with a plan, buy the paints you need and then you can always expand your collection as the need arises.

    It depends on the situation. I try to paint fully assembled models, but I make exceptions in cases where access to the model is greatly diminished via assembly. So I stand sort of in the middle camp, but I know there are proponents of either strategy.

    When it comes to models, I stick with hobby store paints (GW, Vallejo, Army Painter, etc.). For items such as terrain, I almost exclusively use cheaper craft store paint.

    Hope that helps :)
     
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  3. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    1: In my store: Not at all. There are several people playing with unpainted models. I agree with @NIGHTBRINGER , you should just ask in the places you play at.

    2: Nope.

    3: If you are aiming for a classic scheme like on the box I would say you will need approximately these colors:
    - dark red
    - brighter red
    - white
    - black
    - dark blue
    - bright blue
    - bone color
    - dark green
    - bright green
    - gold
    - bronze
    - light grey
    - dark grey
    - yellow
    - dark brown
    - light brown
    - black shade
    - sepia shade
    - blue shade
    - red shade

    4. I usually build most of the models before painting them. Exception are Skeletons and Skinks and their weapons. which I prime and partly basecoat in the sprue.
    Generally it is a good idea to build subassemblies. Look at the model and judge which parts will block your brush making painting the stuff below a chore. Don't glue those on but paint them separately. Shields are a good example.

    5. For terrain pieces or bases the craft store/hobby store paints are good enough. I wouldn't use them on my models, but there are people who do. There are several good brands of colors available for painting models. I use:
    - Vallejo (rather expensive here in Germany but really good)
    - Army Painter (a bit cheaper, I bought and use their mega paint box, which is around 100€ and contains lots of colors (a bit over 40, which is roughly what you will need in 90% of all cases. Some are pretty thin though, which is something some people dislike. I like them)
    - Citadel (very thick, thin them down! But they cover well. Pretty expensive though and the pots suck IMO.)
     
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  4. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    First off,

    Do you want to paint them or are you just wanting to play the game as you don't want to invest £40 into paints if your not up for it.
     
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  5. n810
    Slann

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    1)How extensively do I need to paint the models to be playable in store?
    2017-07-25_12-34-35.jpg
    :shifty: (as you read this there are probably models looking like this being played in your local store)

    2)Do I have to use Citadel paints?
    No, and you Don't have to use their crappy glue either.

    3)What is a good amount to buy to have a decent verity to paint my starter box of Seraphon?
    Probably one of the starter boxes.

    4)Is it better to build then paint or paint in pieces? I ask because the shields and bases have blocked some areas of the models.
    Since you don't seem to like painting, go ahead an put your models together first. then at least you can play with them.
    I only did partial assemblies on the stegadon, but you might consider doing the cold one knights shields separate.

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    5) Is it better to get paint from a craft store or the hobby store?
    Craft store should be cheaper in general.
    But you may want a couple of nice colors from the hobby store.
    at least one good brown or black wash anyway.
     
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  6. Griffen
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    Griffen New Member

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    I want to take the time to paint my army thoroughly but I would also like to play other people. It will take me a few months to paint just my starter box, let alone the rest of the 1000 point final army. So I will plan my colors then head to the game store. I should have a store playable group in two Saturdays. That will buy me time to make them pretty.
     
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  7. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    This should help you pick which colours you want,

    https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Downloads/CitadelPaintingSystem.pdf
     
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