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Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Logan8054, Jan 28, 2019.

  1. LizardWizard
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    LizardWizard Grand Skink Handler Staff Member

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    Alas, I cannot bestow the title of Abhorer of Saurus Knights.
     
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  2. Lizerd
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    Lizerd Well-Known Member

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    I mean, the good thing is they still truly suck :D
     
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  3. GreenyRepublic
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    GreenyRepublic Well-Known Member

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    And what the fuck is with the name anyway? I don't recall our lizzies having a feudal system.

    Seth the Impressionable ;)
     
  4. Vexcor
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    Vexcor Well-Known Member

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    something out of stock does not mean the update is coming, i know its sad.
     
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  5. Vexcor
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    Blades of khorne got there nice update.
    come on, seraphon!!
    would be such a perfect match, BoK vs Seraphon!
    like the story was made, seraphon vs the demons of chaos
     
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  6. Killer Angel
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    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    Blades of Khorne. Their battletome was released in 2017... frankly there was A LOT of armies that should have been updated before them. :meh:
     
  7. Lizerd
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    Lizerd Well-Known Member

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    Foolish mortals endowed us with a warm blood name.
    Yep. Definetly was not needed for an update.
     
  8. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    The thing about the name "Saurus Knights" is probably that the person who chose it has no clue what the word Knight means.
    They don't realize that Knight doesn't just mean "mounted medieval warrior".

    ...which is weird if you consider that GW is British and there are actually Knights and all the nobility stuff still around.
     
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  9. Lizerd
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    I mean it does make sense, as knights are possibly one of the dumbest types of soldiers ever. There have been numerous cases where club armed peasants beat them, and a knight, once knocked off the horse could not get up. Kinda fitting our worst unit is named after them
     
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  10. Canas
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    In fairness the original meaning of knight, or well the original meaning of chevalier from which it was derived was indeed basicly just "mounted warrior" or "mounted horsemen" or some such. The connotations with nobility and codes of honour came much much later. So in a roundabout way he'd be sorta right I guess.
     
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  11. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Except that is a myth.
    A Knight was the elite warrior of his time. They were trained and perfectly able to fight on foot, and many of them did.
    Also plate armor (except some types for tournaments) was not that heavy. It does not prevent you from getting up, running, jumping, fighting, doing somersaults etc. That's just wrong.

    Knights were used because they worked. People in medieval times were not that dumb.
     
  12. Canas
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    I still love that picture in some old childerens book I had where knights had to be lifted onto their horse with a freaking crane. Not once did I consider that if the knight was that immensly heavy it'd break the poor animals back immeadiatly.

    Also to put it into perspective, a video of some guy in plate messing around from about 0:44 he shows off mobility related stuff. If I remember correclty the weight of a medieval knight's equipment is surprisingly similar to what a modern soldier wears.
     
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  13. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    In defense of the crane picture:
    There were indeed such cranes, and there was indeed armor that was so heavy that it was very hard to move while wearing it.

    But that was jousting armor, designed for maximum protection during a tournament. Since you only had to use it for a few minutes and for a very limited activity (not a lot of movement necessary for jousting) you could afford to make it like that.

    Armor for the battlefield was never that bad. In fact a good plate harness of the 15th century or later (we know because we have original parts) was typically less than 30 kg heavy. A trained soldier (we have documents describing how they trained and fought) could easily wear it the whole day.
     
  14. LizardWizard
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    LizardWizard Grand Skink Handler Staff Member

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    Chainmail with proper under armor and padding was effective against nearly all piercing and slashing weapons. It even was quite effective against arrows. The rise of platted armor came about because of how effective mounted lancers proves to be against what had been an extremely success form of protection for over 400 years.

    The full plate armor suits that are generally on display is muesems and estates were not actually used that often or were jousting suits. Standard plate armor was a set of pauldrons, lorica, brevor, and helm that was places over top of mail armor. All of which was shocking light. Their purpose was just to redirect the force of impact from heavy weapons such as lances, halbers, and hammers.
     
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  15. LizardWizard
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    We at Lustria are not good about staying on topic. lol
     
  16. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Yep, but our OT stuff is usually fun and interesting to read! :D

    I will create a "medieval facts" thread soon though, as I am very interested in that topic and there are great sources around for that topic now. Historians have found out quite a few neat things during the last 20 years or so.

    Edit: created in the general section
     
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  17. ILKAIN
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    Hi, Modern soldier here lol, and can confirm. We got to do a historical weapons training day because sometimes when you are in war zones with people that live in mud huts you come across tactics and equipment that are outdated but could be surprisingly effective, and we actually had an insurgent bum rush a check point in real plate armor. It stopped several rounds from rifles and he had to be stopped with the M240 mounted in a tower. I got to run around in plate armor for half a day and it was actually LIGHTER than a full load out for a machine gunner or grenadier. the rifleman load out was lighter by a smidge.

    fun fact blunt force trauma in plate armor still leaves nasty bruises lol
     
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  18. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Ill quote you over in this thread, since that's a good point. (please continue the discussion there)
    http://lustria-online.com/threads/medieval-facts.22735/
     
  19. Canas
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    I blame @NIGHTBRINGER he infected us all.
     
  20. Torxhol Drakescale
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    Torxhol Drakescale Active Member

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    All those polls just goofed with our brains and now we can't focus. Bet if we examine every message he's sent we could BS some way to make them spell "unfocused" or something.
     

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