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Discussion in 'Seraphon Army Lists' started by Jimshaman, Jul 26, 2018.

  1. Jimshaman
    Jungle Swarm

    Jimshaman New Member

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    Hi guys, newly signed up and wanted to get some feedback on a list i'm currently putting together and painting my way through. Before i spend anymore money I thought i would get some "expert" advice from the community.

    Leader
    Eotg
    Eotg
    Lord Kroak
    Saurus Astolith Bearer
    Slann Starmaster
    Slann Starmaster

    Battleline
    40 Skinks blowspitters and shields
    10 Skinks blowspitters and shields
    10 Skinks Blowspitters and shields

    Endless spells
    Geminids
    shackles (i have points spare)

    General plan is to summon Bastiladons every turn bar turn two which will be reserved for summoning a dread saurain. I will take them with snakes to dish out as many mortal wounds as possible in both combat phases. I have planned my summoning points each turn based on only ever getting 1 from the D3 Asolith roll. It will allow me to summon:
    Turn 1: Bastiladon
    Turn 2: Dread Saurain
    Turn 3: Bastiladon
    Turn 4: Bastiladon
    Turn 5: Bastiladon
    I have additonal models like old one on carno so i have flexibility as to what gets summoned each turn but preference would always be the Bastiladons
    Great rememberer taken on the general to port skinks around onto objectives / shield units as needed.
    So any summons brought early by the Eotg will be used for rippers to harass and chase objectives. turn 3 on wards any summons for the Eotg will likely be skinks for home objectives / replace missing units killed off from the starting list.

    I am planning the first game with this list at the end of august so plenty of time to tweak it as needed.

    look forward to hearing your thoughts.

    Jim.
     
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  2. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Where are you getting 24pts first turn then 40 turn 2 then 24 every other turn?

    Slann General is the only one that gains points + Astrolith D3+ 1 for being general

    So a Slann with BWV and cogs would generate 4*3+D3+1 turn one, turn 2, 5*3+D3+1

    Kroak would be 5*3+D3+1 and turn 2, 6*3+D3+1
     
  3. Jimshaman
    Jungle Swarm

    Jimshaman New Member

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    Kroak not casting a spell is 4 x 3 for 12.
    Double slann not casting a spell is 6 x 3 for 18
    Single point for slann general is 1 for 1
    Astrolith is d3 i assume for 1

    total 32 points. or have i completely misread how all this works.

    Cheers.

    Jim.
     
  4. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Jep completely misread it.

    ONLY your GENERAL Slann get the points
     
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  5. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

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    Jep.
    The theoretical maximum in a turn is:
    Kroak as General, on Balewind, with Cogs (19)
    + Astrolith rolling perfect (3) = 22
     
  6. Jimshaman
    Jungle Swarm

    Jimshaman New Member

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    Well this changes things a lot. back to the drawing board with the list! dropping the double slann what would your suggestions be for replacements ? increase the skink unit sizes and maybe another EOTG ?
     
  7. Lorrec
    Skink

    Lorrec Active Member

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    If you have the points, I would look at a shadowstrike starhost. You’ve got the skinks and you can use an engine as the Skink Priest keyword. That will give you a bloat toad and another tool for dealing with your opponents army. And another artifact is always a plus.
     
  8. Arawn
    Saurus

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    Does it really work with the keyword only? I thought the text needed to be written in bold to refer to the keyword, otherwise it refers to the warscroll name
     
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  9. Lorrec
    Skink

    Lorrec Active Member

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    You’re right. Even though it has the SKINK PRIEST keywords that’s not the warscroll “title” so it probably doesn’t work that way. The rules use to say “If the model has the name or keyword.” And it used to work then but not anymore.
     
  10. Furnus
    Skink

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    I was just checking the above in the AoS-App. It doesn't seem like any (of the Seraphon units') keywords are listed in bold or CAPS for that matter. Also, I fell upon page 114 of the GH 2018 in regards to the Skink Command Trait "Master of Star Rituals". There the keyword is referenced as follows:

    "If this general is a SKINK PRIEST from the Skink Priest warscroll..." [My underline]

    It seems - at least in the above example - that if the keyword is to be limited to the Skink Priest model, then that is explicitly stated.

    I must however quickly admit that I haven't purchased all our battalions in the app, so my 'research' is limited.

    Would love to hear more opinions.
     
  11. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

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    The EotG cannot be used in a Shadowstrike.

    The warscroll clearly says "Skink Priest or Skink Starpriest".
    If it meant keywords that would be redundant, since both of those have the Skink and Priest keywords, no need to mention the Starpriest.
    Also the text is not in bold. So it refers to unit names, not keywords.
     
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  12. Furnus
    Skink

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    I think the first point you make is good.

    I’m regards to the second, I can’t find any keywords mentioned in bold in the app. For example the Slann’s command ability references “Seraphon”, which is neither bold nor caps.
     
  13. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

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    I looked in the actual book. The app is still fu ot errors ar the moment, so not reliable.
     

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