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40K - Should I .... or not? Where to start?

Discussion in 'General Hobby/Tabletop Chat' started by Aginor, Oct 11, 2017.

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  1. Captaniser
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    Demon models can be used in AoS and 40k, that faction has always been unique that way. Demons are basically 2 armies in 1, kinda.


    I don't play 40k but from what i've heard they're kinda mediocre. They are getting their own codex before christmas, and that is almost bound to make them better.

    Fun fact: Soul Grinder

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    This Demon unit was meant to only be a part of 40k, that is why it is so mechanical and it even has a laser cannon as an arm. The higher ups at GW demanded that this unit was also implemented into fantasy (now AoS) even though it looks completly out of place in a fantasy setting.
     
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    I already wondered about that guy. Your explanation makes it much more clear. Thanks!
     
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    They did that in 8th Edition first with the release of the 8th Edition army book so that they wouldn't have to produce new stuff just for fantasy, but that does mean that practically every daemon unit can now be used in fantasy, AoS and 40k, whereas before the Soul Grinder was the main difference between fantasy and 40k daemons
     
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    I always hated its inclusion in Warhammer Fantasy. Like you said, it feels completely out of place.
     
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    Pretty much. "why not use daemonic crab legs?" was my first thought.
     
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    The model was very obviously designed for 40k and shoehorned into fantasy. There is nothing wrong with it, as its design fits perfectly within its intended universe. The only issue is that GW decided to try to make a few extra :greedy::greedy: by pushing it onto fantasy players.
     
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    Another short question:
    Is/was that human Emperor guy as much of a dick towards aliens as his deputies are? And if yes: why?
    I mean: I'd rather have Eldar and Tau on my side fighting Chaos, Tyranids and Necrons and Orks, instead of fighting all of them at the same time...
     
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    The Emperor didn't look at aliens with the kindest of hearts. He told them to either have a complete surrender and that they should believe that the Emperiums ways were superior in every single way, if they didn't do both they usually went extinct. He didn't really mind the Elder, they sometimes helped him and vise versa, but he still wanted to get rid of them if the opportunity arose. Big E believed in human supremacy. Xenos races could either help humanity through tithes and submission or go extinct and give the Emperium more planets.

    It wasn't just aliens that got that ultimatum tho. There does exist human empires that are outside of the Emperium, some are so segregated they don't even realise the Emperium exists. If the Emperium or the Emperor ran into one of these empires he demanded the same things, join or die. Abandon your culture, history and allegiances to join the glorious Emperor. Despoil your peaceful and beautiful worlds so that they can become factories for the wars of the Emperium.
     
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    Thanks. So this whole coexistence thing is not something he's fond of, I understand...
     
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    In the dark future there are only morons!
     
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