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AoS AGE OF SIGMAR SDK (math based point system)

Discussion in 'Rules Help' started by n810, Jul 22, 2015.

  1. n810
    Slann

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    A bunch I disgruntled players came up with a math basses point system for the AoS scrolls.
    it seems to be broken down to the level of what weapon option a unit is even using. :)
    and them numbers are not an entirely different number scale from the 8th edition numbers.
    it's no perfect, but it's a web based and they plan on improving it as they test it.

    AGE OF SIGMAR SDK
    https://sites.google.com/site/ageofsigmarsdk/pointtables

    here's the formula they use
    https://sites.google.com/site/ageofsigmarsdk/sdksystem
     
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  2. pendrake
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    That is what I was trying to do in the other thread.
    Theirs is a more complicated looking formula. They maybe better maths majors than I am. :)



    Lizardmen according to their reckoning
    NAME COSTS
    Lord Kroak 237
    Slann Mage-Priest 137
    Kroq-Gar on Carnosaur 276
    Saurus Oldblood - Suntooth Maul 126
    Saurus Oldblood - Warblade 130
    Saurus Oldblood - War-spear 133
    Saurus Oldblood - Greatblade 126
    Saurus Oldblood on Cold One 139
    Chakax, The Eternity Warden 119
    Gor-Rok 142

    Scar-Veteran with Battle Standard 102
    Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur - Warblade 280
    Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur - War-spear 284
    Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur - Greatblade 273

    Saurus Warriors - Club 18
    Saurus Warriors - Spear 18
    Saurus Warriors Alpha Talon - Club 19
    Saurus Warriors Alpha Talon - Spear 18
    Temple Guard 26
    Temple Guard Alpha Guardian 30
    Saurus Cavalry - Blade 35
    Saurus Cavalry - Lance 35
    Saurus Cavalry Alpha Knight - Blade 39
    Saurus Cavalry Alpha Knight - Lance 38

    Tehenhauin, Prophet of Sotek 100
    Tetto'eko 82
    Oxyotl 88

    Skink Priest - Priestly Trappings 67
    Skink Priest - Cloak of Feathers 98
    Skink Chief - Golden Sickle 70
    Skink Chief - Ornate Club 67
    Skink Chief - Golden Sickle & Blowpipe 75
    Skink Chief - Ornate Club & Blowpipe 73

    Skinks - Meteoric Javelins & Star-bucklers 18
    Skinks - Boltspitters & Star-bucklers 18
    Skinks - Boltspitters & Moonstone Clubs 18
    Skinks - Moonstone Clubs & Star-bucklers 15

    Skinks Alpha - Meteoric Javelins & Star-bucklers 18
    Skinks Alpha - Boltspitters & Star-bucklers 18
    Skinks Alpha - Boltspitters & Moonstone Clubs 18
    Skinks Alpha - Moonstone Clubs & Star-bucklers
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    Chameleon Skinks 24
    Terradon Riders - Starstrike Javelins 53
    Terradon Riders - Sunleech Bolas 48
    Terradon Riders Alpha - Starstrike Javelins 54
    Terradon Riders Alpha - Sunleech Bolas 49
    Terradon Riders Master of the Skies 54
    Ripperdactyl Riders 53
    Ripperdactyl Riders Alpha 55

    Skink Handlers 14
    Salamanders 51
    Razordons 77
    Kroxigor - Drakebite Maul 69
    Kroxigor - Moon Hammer 62

    Stegadon - Skystreak Bow 245
    Stegadon - Sunfire Thrower 255
    Stegadon with Alpha Skink - Skystreak Bow 265
    Stegadon with Alpha Skink - Sunfire Thrower 276

    Engine of the Gods 277
    Bastiladon - Ark of Sotek 278
    Bastiladon - Solar Engine 240
    Troglodon 226

    Jungle Swarms 46
     
  3. n810
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    Yea, I'm thinking their formula holds great promise. ;)
     
  4. Man0waR
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    But the formula can't cover sinergies or special rules.

    There's no point in Slann who is able to summon whatever he wants, to cost less than any unit he could bring on the battlefield.
     
  5. pendrake
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    Does a formula really need to? Synergies start to happen because of player decisions. Ultimately, the goal of a point value system is to have the game decided by dice-rolls and the decisions the players make.
     
  6. Man0waR
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    Well its like playing chess with all your pawns having the rules of queen.
     
  7. pendrake
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    What goes in the blank?
    -Age of Sigmar?
    -One of the proposed formulae?
    -A Slann?
     
  8. Scalenex
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    Presumably one would use the formula to establish a baseline. Then you would adjust the points value up for exotic non-quantifiable abilities via arbitrary decisions educated guesses on what's appropriate.

    Then when you find out something is imbalanced, change it again.
     
  9. Mr Phat
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    I would leave the points alone, and put my faith in the restriction teams around the world to cancel out broken combos :)
     

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