1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Don't have enough monsters? Or just want to show off your painting skills. Why not try entering the Monster Mash! - Click here for more info.
    Dismiss Notice

Blog Aginor's Painting Blog

Discussion in 'Painting and Converting' started by Aginor, Feb 25, 2017.

  1. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

    Messages:
    6,340
    Likes Received:
    9,124
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ok here it is. Keep in mind this is a very rough first test. But I think it looks promising.

    In the upper right corner is the unpainted material, then (clockwise) orange, blue, and red.
    I applied quite a lot here for the color test, I guess normally you would probably apply a bit less.
    The coolest thing is that you can make as much as you like in the colors you like.

    20180130_231004.jpg
     
  2. Ritual
    Skar-Veteran

    Ritual Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,322
    Likes Received:
    5,958
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hold on, I don't quite get what you did... You painted stuff to get the orange, blue, red? The grass in the top right, can you do a larger base of it so I can see what it is?
     
    Warden likes this.
  3. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

    Messages:
    6,340
    Likes Received:
    9,124
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ok maybe I wrote some stuff badly understandable, let me quickly re-iterate over it:


    The grass is regular Noch #07104 electrostatic grass, this one: https://www.noch.com/en/wild-grass-bright-green-6-mm-07104.html

    The stuff I applied as flower petals is this: https://www.noch.com/en/scatter-material-flower-meadow-08400.html

    I painted the #08400 scatter material by basically mixing it with a drop of my Army Painter acryllic paint.

    Then I put some PVA on the finished grass and touched the PVA drops with the painted #08400 scatter material.

    So the top right corner is just the #07104 with the unpainted #08400 on top, in the middle of the base (or on all my other grass bases in the blog) you can see the grass without the #08400.
    The other corners are the differently painted #08400.
     
  4. Ritual
    Skar-Veteran

    Ritual Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,322
    Likes Received:
    5,958
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ah, that makes a lot more sense. Somehow I thought you had pre-made flock with flowers... Was wondering how you got it to stand up.

    Pretty cool, might have to investigate this...
     
    Warden likes this.
  5. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

    Messages:
    6,340
    Likes Received:
    9,124
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Noch sells pre-made flower fields but those are mats.
    They also sell tufts but ~60 pieces (three colors usually so 20 each) are 15€ or so. Which is too restricted and too expensive IMO.
     
    Mesandres, Warden and Ritual like this.
  6. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

    Messages:
    6,716
    Likes Received:
    10,899
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Flockbox is amazing
     
    Ritual likes this.
  7. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

    Messages:
    6,716
    Likes Received:
    10,899
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I just cut the flower tufts in half to make them smaller and go further.
     
    Aginor and Ritual like this.
  8. Ritual
    Skar-Veteran

    Ritual Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,322
    Likes Received:
    5,958
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The ones I get on eBay are way cheaper than that and always come out looking nicely. I chop them into bits sometimes too.
     
    Aginor and Crowsfoot like this.
  9. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

    Messages:
    6,340
    Likes Received:
    9,124
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah of course there are cheaper tufts around. I haven't done the math properly but with the bag of that stuff being <2€ I think it could still be worth it, especially if you can use cheap house paint for the colors.

    But I think the biggest advantage is placing them on bigger grassy surfaces. No glueing them in, just touching the spots you want to place flowers with a brush of PVA and then with the right color of petals.

    If you have a rocky base and just want a few tufts then making them yourself probably isn't worth it even though the material is cheap as well.
    50g of that gras is <8€ and you can make a few hundred tufts with that (using a plastic bag, drops of PVA glue on there, and the flock box). I've done that myself as well.
    It may be cheaper if you need a LOT of grass tufts (several hundred) with a broad range of colors.
     
  10. Ritual
    Skar-Veteran

    Ritual Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,322
    Likes Received:
    5,958
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That bag of stuff for under 2 bucks is a bargain, there seems to be a ton of it in there.
     
    Aginor likes this.
  11. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

    Messages:
    6,340
    Likes Received:
    9,124
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah I was pretty surprised it is that cheap.
     
    Mesandres and Ritual like this.
  12. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

    Messages:
    6,340
    Likes Received:
    9,124
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ok I tried the yellow again and it worked. The trick was to use some white first, wait two minutes and then put the particles into the yellow. With a thicker yellow paint it will work without that step in between but I was too lazy to get one. :D

    20180131_231959.jpg
     
  13. Itepixcauh
    Troglodon

    Itepixcauh Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    655
    Likes Received:
    1,426
    Trophy Points:
    93
    That Bastilodon looks AMAZING! Also congratulations on purchasing an airbrush.
     
    Aginor likes this.
  14. Warden
    Skink Priest

    Warden Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,005
    Likes Received:
    7,274
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This may be a silly question, but how did you get the grass to stick up??

    What I mean is, the only 'grass flock" I have seen in stores just comes in a big bag of little blades of grass. It looks ok when spread on a base, but it gives the effect that all the grass is flattened down and lying at all sorts of weird angles. The effect would work better for hay than for grass. :meh:

    Do the grasses you use come in little clumps or something?
     
    HeirofCarnage and Aginor like this.
  15. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

    Messages:
    6,340
    Likes Received:
    9,124
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thank you!
    The trick is: I use an electrostatic device. I use one manufactured by Noch, which is called the "Grassmaster" but you can also build a DIY version cheaply.
    In this video you can see how it works, it basically shoots the fibers into the PVA glue along electromagnetic field lines.
     
  16. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

    Messages:
    6,340
    Likes Received:
    9,124
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I should add it works a bit differently for wargaming purposes.
    You cannot put a nail into your bases so the trick I use is getting a sheet of aluminium foil and attaching the clamp to that. Then I put the base of the model near it.
     
  17. Seraphandy
    Cold One

    Seraphandy Active Member

    Messages:
    102
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    43
    That looks brilliant!
     
    Warden likes this.
  18. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

    Messages:
    6,340
    Likes Received:
    9,124
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thanks! Can't wait to try it on some bases and create something really natural looking with that technique.
     
    Mesandres and Warden like this.
  19. Warden
    Skink Priest

    Warden Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,005
    Likes Received:
    7,274
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :wideyed: That is amazing. My mind is pretty blown, I had no clue this was a thing.

    If you ever do this again please take some in-progress pics so I can see your setup.
     
    HeirofCarnage and Aginor like this.
  20. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning

    Messages:
    6,340
    Likes Received:
    9,124
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure! I do that grass stuff all the time, I'll just take some pictures of each stage next time for a little tutorial. :)
     
    Mesandres, Warden and Seraphandy like this.

Share This Page