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Tutorial Battletome 2.0 - Seraphon Overview

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    Slann

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    So, here we are.

    Seraphons are dead, long live Seraphons. The old battletome has gone down in flames, and the new battletome arises from its ashes, with entire new ways to wage the war.

    the goal is to have a general overview of the army, especially helpful for beginners so, in this thread i will analyze everything. the following posts (with handy links) will cover:

    1 - Seraphon abilities (with differences between starborne and coalesced armies / subfactions)

    2 - stats and roles of heroes (with command traits)

    3 - synergies table

    4 - stats and roles for units (battlelines)

    5 - stats and roles for units (artillery, behemoths, everything else)

    6 - magic (seraphon spells)

    7 - magic (Endless spells)

    8 - magic (artefacts)


    9 - Battalions


    10 - Tips & tactics: Starborne

    11 - Tips & tactics: Coalesced

    12 - Powerful builds & tricks (realshaper engine included)




    It will be a long work in progress, so expect to see changes through my posts.

    A special thanks goes to everyone that is helping me through this; i will name @Canas, @Nart, @Erta Wanderer … and all of you who contributed to this overview, even by pointing out a single error made by me during the process. Thanks guys.


    If you notice something wrong, let me know, so i can fix it.
     
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    SERAPHON ABILITIES


    a Seraphon army, will have always the following abilities.

    Contemplations of the Ancient One:
    at the end of your hero phase, 1 Slann can swap a Lore spell with another one. This will let you tailor your magic against your opponent.

    Sacred Asterisms:
    start hero phase, you choose a constellation to be active (useful to plan tactics)
    • Great Drake: pick a hero, +1 attack to melee weapons. Situational but useful to buff that oldblood on carno when you want your next target to die
    • Hunter's Steed: +1 run and charge for friendly Seraphon. The most general one, always useful
    • Sage's Staff: pick a single Seraphon Wizard, he gains +1 casting and dispelling during your turn or +1 unbinding during enemy's. Buff your main caster for magical war dominance and nice tricks.

    Bound Endless Spells

    bound predatory endless spells cast by Seraphons, can only be moved by a player using a Seraphon army. This is huge, as it gives your magical phase much more reliability.



    then, you must choose. Your army must be Starborne OR Coalesced



    STARBORNE Seraphon

    a Starborne Seraphon army, will have the following additional abilities.

    Lords of Space and Time (LoSaT)
    1/turn, at the end of the move phase you can teleport a seraphon unit anywhere on the battlefield., that appears at more than 9” from enemy units. That unit can shoot and charge.
    LoSaT is one of the main reason you want to play Starborne.

    Unfeeling.
    all units are considered to have bravery 10.

    Celestial Conjuration (aka “summoning”)
    you can avoid to cast one or more spells, to accumulate Conjuration points (CCP), that can be used to summon units on the battlefield. Those point can be increased furtherly.
    Basically:
    begin of hero phase: 1d3 pts if Slann or Starseer is general
    1d3 pts if you have an Astrolith Bearer
    if a Slann or oracle gives up to cast his first spell, gain further d3 for each uncast spell.
    You can gain in this way only ONE d3 from each wizard (FAQ april 2020)
    at the end of the move phase, summon one unit. The CCP cost goes from 6 (10 skinks) up to 30 (stegadon w skink chief).
    The points gains are unreliable, and cannot be farmed with the same efficacy we were used in the past. A list summons-based requires at least 3 sources to generate points and, in any case, it's almost an unfeasible strategy: think to it more as the chance to call a couple of additional units during the game to act as screen or objective holder.

    A Starborne army, CAN choose (for free) to pick one of the following 2 sub-factions, with the relative abilities:

    Starborne Dracothion's Tail

    Appear on Command:

    for each unit you have on the battlefield, you can set one in reserve. At the end of the move phase, you can call on the battlefield one or more units from the reserve, setting them within 18" from a Slann and more than 9" from enemy's units.
    mandatory Command trait for slann
    Ancient Knowledge: knows 1 extra spell and can reroll 1 cast/dispel/unbind each hero phase.

    Starborne Fangs of Sotek

    First to battle:
    add 3" to move to skinks units, in the first round of battle.
    additional Command ability
    allows a skinks or chameleon skinks unit that has been charged (FAQ april 2020), to shoot at the end of your opponent’s charge phase and then (on a 4+) move away, thus denying the charge.
    mandatory Command trait for saurus
    Old and Grizzled: on a 3+, gain an extra CP.
    (please note that this is mandatory only if your general is a Saurus. If it's something different, you can pick the trait you want. The same applies to all sub-factions)


    COALESCED Seraphon

    a Coalesced Seraphon army, will have the following additional abilities.

    Predatory Fighters:
    +1 attack of jaw weapons. A much needed bost in damage for saurus and Dinos. It’s one of the many multipliers we’ll have at disposal

    Scaly Skin:
    -1 damage inflicted for each successful attack against a Coalesced unit (min 1). You lose bravery 10, but this is a huge boost to survavibility, it works wonders to protect your monsters and also your troops. Despite the way it's written, it doesn't apply to MWs caused by attacks (Designer's commentary april 2020). Basically, it can be either borderline useless or super powerful, depending on the opponent.

    Cold-Blooded:
    Your units Ignore Bravery modifiers. Your bravery is low, but at least you won’t suffer from abilities that stacks upon the target negative bonuses. It’s a really small ability, but hey.

    Primeval Domain:
    You ignore negative terrain effects in your table half AND restricts your opponent from gaining positive effects in your territory


    A Coalesced army, CAN choose (for free) to pick one of the following 2 sub-factions, with the relative abilities:

    Coalesced Koatl's Claw

    Savagery incarnate:
    add +1 to hit rolls made by Saurus after a charge.
    additional Command ability
    pick a saurus unit within 24" from a saurus hero at the beginning of the combat phase. That unit is considered to have completed a charge for the use of Savagery Incarnate.
    mandatory Command trait for saurus
    Dominant predator: when the general spend a CP, it's given back on a 4+.

    Coalesced Thunder Lizard

    Beasts of war
    Add 2 to the wounds to each Thunder-Lizard Behemoth.
    additional Command ability
    pick a Bastiladon or a EotG unit within 24" from a hero at the end of the shooting phase. That unit can shoot / use the engine again.
    mandatory Command trait for hero on behemoths
    Prime Warbeast: add 1 attack to all mount's weapons of the General.

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    Basically, Starborne is an army that’s similar to “old” seraphon, relying on movement, summoning and battlefield control, but alas in a weaker way than what we were used to.

    Coalasced is a melee army, much more resilient and with more hitting power (more on line with the current AoS armies), but gives away our old habit of master of battlefield control via movement shenanigans.

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    last, but not least…

    Realmshaper Engine

    This pyramid is the terrain that ALL seraphon armies can field for free.
    its placement is weird, as it’s set up before all other terrains are placed (at more than 6" from objectives), so it could end in your opponent territory. However, it won’t do any particular good to said opponent.
    It can be garrisoned by anyone, but if you place in it a friendly seraphon wizard or priest, you can use its (very good) special ability, delivering d3 Mortal wounds to all enemy units that are within 3” from a terrain. It works on a 2+ if the target terrain is within 18” from the Realmshaper, on a 4+ if between 18” and 36”, on a 6+ if at more than 36”.
     
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    units analysis


    HEROES – NO MOUNTS


    “SERAPHON” HEROES


    Slann
    260 pts.
    7 wounds, save 4+
    Our classic general, comes with a lot of nice, passive bonuses:
    Each turn, can generate up to 2 Command Points for free (roll to dices, gain a CP on a 4+).
    got a +1 to cast and unbind, can cast 3 spells and 3 unbind attempts.
    For casting, he got Arcane Vassal (can cast through a skink wizard / oracle within 12”. Doesn’t work for endless spells)
    For unbind, he can attempt to unbind enemy spells anywhere on the battlefield.
    its signature spell is Comet’s call (casting 7): d3 Mortal wounds to d3 units anywhere on the battlefield. A casting of 10+ affects d6 units. It’s a huge spells, and (given that the 10+ can be modified by bonuses to cast, it can let you do something nasty).
    Plus, the guy got a strong command ability, giving fly to nearby Seraphon unit AND +1 on roll saves vs shooting.


    Lord Kroak
    320 pts.
    is basically a souped up Slann (with even the same command ability), which comes with a lot of bonuses for only 60 pts more.
    7 wounds, save 4+ but 4+ FNP (feel no pain versus wounds and mortal wounds)
    Each turn, can generate up to THREE Command Points.
    got a +1 to cast and unbind, can cast and unbind 4 spells (unbinding anywhere on the battlefield).
    two signature spells: Comet’s call (the same as the Slann) and Celestial deliverance (damages up to 3 units within 10”, can be cast multiple times with an increasing difficulty).
    If you are not playing at low level points, there’s little reason to take a basic Slann instead of Kroak.



    SKINKS HEROES

    Skink Priest:
    70 pts.
    with 4 wounds and save 5+ he’s a squishy, but got an exceptionally useful ability, that works on units with the skink keyword: on a 3+ , target unit can run and still shoot / charge, AND +1 on save rolls. Mandatory on a bastiladon with laser, but immensely useful on, well, everything.
    Command ability: pick a unit with the skink keyword, add +1 to hit rolls for attacks made by that unit.
    If you bring skinks on the table, you MUST have a priest


    Skink Starpriest:
    120 pts.
    Squishy as a priest (only 1 more wound), but he’s also a wizard.
    can give you an additional command point on a 5+.
    Another exceptionally useful ability: pick a unit with the seraphon keyword: unmodified “to wound” rolls of 6, inflict an additional mortal wounds.
    The signature spell is Blazing Starlight: pick an enemy unit and it must subtract 1 from “to hit” rolls. can be situationally strong.
    The Starpriest venom can be truly useful, but given its cost you need to plan your list to exploit the MW chance (for example, play hordes, or buffed models that can deliver a lot of attacks, like a stegadon which is more likely to get into combat without being "decreased in number")


    Skink Starseer
    140 pts.
    Squishy as a starpriest and even slower, but he’s exceptionally useful.
    can give you an additional command point on a 4+.
    His ability lets you pick a unit with the seraphon keyword and you can roll 3d6 for the charge. This alone is huge and justifies his inclusion in a list.
    The signature spell is Control Fate and lets you pick a unit: if it’s enemy, subtract 1 from saves; it it’s friendly, add 1 to saves.
    Exceptionally strong, it’s another “must have” for any kind of army, that lets you do some insane combo.



    SAURUS HEROES


    Saurus Astrolith bearer.
    140 pts
    it gives +1 to cast and additional range of 6” to spells. Yes, you can totally stuck him near Lord Kroak to trigger comet's bonus on a 8 (7 with Sage's staff), and have a 16” celestial deliverance bubble that starts from an arcane vassal.
    But its most useful ability is Revifying energies: gives FNP 6+ to any friendly seraphon unit within 12”.
    it also gives 1d3 CCP if you play Starborne.
    You should always try to save a place for a AB, especially in a melee army, as its defensive bubble can stack with many other defensive options we have.


    Saurus Eternity Warden.
    110 pts.
    the hero for Saurus Guards.
    With a 3+ save he’s got a decent defense; can act also as bodyguards for your Slann (in the same way any saurus guard can); his command ability adds +1 to “to hit” rolls made by a unit of saurus guards. This one is a niche hero, and I'm being generous.


    Saurus Oldblood.
    110 pts.
    same cost and profile as the Eternity Warden, doesn’t act as Slann bodyguard but his Command Ability (“Wrath of the Seraphons”, +1 to hit rolls) works on any saurus unit. It's a cheap buffer, and you will love it.


    Saurus Sunblood.
    130 pts
    Our first really dedicated melee guy, that hits hard and stacks nasty effects on nat. rolls of 6s, both on to hit and to wound. His command ability adds +1 to “to wound” rolls by a target saurus unit. It's our only source of bonus to wound, so he's pretty useful and with 6 melee attacks, he's a great candidate for an artefact weapon.



    HEROES – WITH MOUNTS​

    SKINKS HEROES


    Ripperdactyls Chief.
    80 pts.
    5 wounds, save 5+, move 12
    his command ability gives +1 attacks to all melee weapons of a rippers unit.
    Ripperdactyls have been nerfed, so… maybe to buff a maxed unit?
    anyway, despite the way it's written on the warscroll, it's an ability that cannot be stacked (FAQ april 2020), so rippers are still a suboptimal unit, to say the least.


    Terradon Chief.
    70 pts.
    Squishier than anything, a hero with 5 wounds and save 6+. imposes a -1 to be hit to melee weapons used by non flyiers (so don’t count on it).
    However, he’s got a 16 move and, oh boy… the Command Ability buffs the Deadly Cargo attacks of terradons (MWs on a 2+, instead of 4+). It’s so strong that you can build entire lists on it. See details in the description of the “Terradon riders” unit


    Skink oracle on troglodon.
    260 pts.
    comes at the same cost of a Slann, and indeed he’s a sort of slann disguised as skink. on a dinosaur.
    Like a Slann, he’s got got a +1 to cast and unbind; unbinds within the whole battlefield, can cast just 1 spell which is Comet’s call (see Slann for details).
    But the little guy sits on a dinosaur that is a passable monster: 12 wounds with a 4+ save (that can regenerate d3 each round), with ranged attacks and melee attacks. Almost all with no rend, but we’re still talking about a tenth of attacks, all dealing multiple wounds. Nice but overpriced.


    Engine of the Gods.
    260 pts.
    Once a mandatory unit, now you have very little reason to take one.
    It’s basically a Stegadon (see that unit for details) with a slightly better melee profile (+2 wounds).
    Loses the powerful ranged attacks of the stegadon, to gain the engine… but the random effects of the engine are underwhelming, unless stars aligned. So, kinda meh unless very lucky circumstances happen.
    It can be more useful in a coalesced army, being the only source to summon something on the battlefield.
    If you bring one, you can also focus on healing: EoTG + endless lifeswarm + healing spell = 3D3 wounds.
    (FAQ april 2020: the hero is the priest: the crew is part of the stegadon, which is the mount)


    Stegadon with Skink Chief.
    270 pts.
    Mandatory for Coalesced Thunder Lizard army.
    It’s basically a Stegadon (see that unit for details) with a command ability affect a skink unit within 24”, increasing by 1 the number of attacks for all melee weapons. Usually you’ll want to target a stegadon.
    Seriously, this guys can bring some serious cheese to the table: a stegadon hero belonging to Coalesced thunder lizard, which is also the General and uses its command ability on itself, buffed also by the command ability of a skink priest… it’s able to deliver 24 melee attacks hitting at 2+.



    SAURUS HEROES


    Scar-Veteran on Cold One.
    110 pts.
    a saurian hero with 7 wounds, save 4+ and move 8. A cheap commander for knights’ battalion.
    Command ability is saurian savagery: elect a saurus unit, on a nat. 6 on “to hit”, it counts as 2 scored hits. As the oldblood afoot, this is another great, cheap buffer.


    Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur.
    210 pts.
    12 wounds, 4+ save
    The Scar-Vet comes with 3 different melee weapon, with different profiles (with the celestite warspear being probably the best one, given the special rules attached to it).
    The Carnosaur is a nice monster, not exceptional but nice (and requires support to perform / survive); once was a monster hunter, now is a horde hunter, increasing its “to hit” for the massive jaws when the target has a wound characteristic of 7-.
    Command ability is saurian savagery: same as scarvet on CO (and same ability cannot affect the same unit twice).
    You usually want a coalesced carno, to enjoy the additional jaws attack and the damage reduction.


    Oldblood on Carnosaur.
    250 pts.
    the carnosaur got the same profile of the one with a scar-vet rider.
    The differences are in the oldblood, which can bring a more powerful weapon and, most of all, in the Commmand Ability Wrath of the Seraphons: (same as Oldblood afoot: select a saurus unit, +1 on to hit rolls).


    COMMAND TRAITS

    One of your heroes will be your general, and will have a Command Trait


    Slann Command traits
    1. each hero phase you can repeat 1 roll to cast/dispel/unbind. The best trait for your Slann
    2. you know one extra spell of the seraphon Lore. You can already pick each round the spell you want.
    3. start hero phase, on a 4+ gain a command point. Not bad but you have other ways to collect CPs

    Saurus Command traits
    1. Re-roll 1s to hit. The best trait for your melee dude
    2. Re-roll 1s to saves. Mystic Shield exists.
    3. start hero phase, on a 4+ gain a command point. Not bad but you have other ways to collect CPs

    Skink Command traits
    1. +1 to cast if a wizard. Gains the command ability of the skink priest without need to spend CPs on it if not a wizard. Pure gold for a stegadon chief
    2. +1 to move, +1 to saves. Holy Sotek. You can give save 3+ to EotG of Stegadon chief; gain another +1 is not that hard.
    3. start combat phase, on a 4+ inflict 1 MW to a enemy hero within 3". ahahah. no.
     
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    THE SYNERGIES


    Seraphon work on synergies granted by heroes and army abilities. But heroes are costly, so when you choose them, it’s always better to optimize your picks to obtain the most you can out of them, to support the strategy you have in mind (alpha strike with flyers, dino carnage, delivering mortal wounds, melee block…). Plus, many abilities are command abilities, so if you plan to use them, you also must plan to have a reliable source of additional command points.

    These tables are a handy quick reference to see what kind of buffs you can apply to units and understand how many bonuses you can stack. Of course “seraphon” keyword applies to both skink and saurus.

    Usually I would firstly review the units, but in this case I think it’s better to immediately see the bonuses, so when I will review the units, I can already give a hint to what they could do if you want to max them or build a list around a particular unit, given the already listed possible bonuses.

    The following tables will include bonuses granted only by:
    - Armies abilities / subfactions;
    - heroes' abilities /command abilities;
    - Spells

    Command traits & battalions at the moment are not included

    Synergies table.jpg
     
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    BATTLELINES

    Saurus warriors
    90 pts for 10; 320 for 40
    1 wound, save 4+, move 5, only 2 attacks (1 weapon, 1 jaws)
    These guys are not a bad unit, especially when you consider the ability “ordered cohort”, that let them deliver an additional attack with celestite weapon when the unit has 15+ models; of course, they are there to be fielded in great numbers (to avoid the loss of ordered cohort), to suffer losses, and to win by attrition. They also can reroll charges, which is always handy.
    But it's when properly buffed that they become impressive, even outside battalions: coalesced Koatl’s claw warriors gain +1 jaws attacks and scaly skin for added durability, so your block delivers 2+2 attacks per model.
    Supported by a Sunblood and an oldblood, on charge they’re going to hit/wound at 2+/2+ (weapons) and 3+/3+ (jaws).
    Further support can come from a skink starseer (save 3+ and 3d6 charge), scar-veteran (additional attacks on 6s to hit), skink starpriest (MWs on 6s to wound), emerald lifeswarm (rise!).
    Plenty of possibilities, it’s just a matter of how many points you wanna spend to support them.


    Saurus knights
    100 pts for 5 (max 20)
    2 wound, save 4+, move 8, 5 attacks (2 celestite weapon, 1 knight jaw, 2 Cold Ones jaws)
    These guys are solid hitters, really dangerous on charge, as they DOUBLE the damage dealt by their celestite lances on charge (which you can re-roll, btw).
    Even taking them outside the firelance battalion, a coalesced Koatl’s claw unit is impressive, gaining +1 jaws attacks on charge and a +1 bonus to hit. That alone lets them do SEVEN attacks each (2 weapons, 2 jaws, 3 CO jaws), hitting on 2+/4+.
    Support them with something quick, as an oldblood on Carno and a Scar-Vet on CO, enjoy a 3+ on your worst “to hit”, doubling the attacks on a nat. 6 to hit. As for warriors, both skink Starseer and Starpriest are excellent buffer for them: the first one for increased save and because you WANT to charge (3d6 FTW) and the second one because when a unit of 10 delivers 70 attacks, the chance of MW on 6s “to wound” is a consistent threat.
    Plenty of possibilities, you could just use a scar-vet and a starpriest: no bonuses to hit, but 10 knights deals 70 attacks that doubles on 6s “to hit” and deal MWs on 6s “to wound”… we are probably talking about a tenth MW, plus normal saves. Here comes the pain scaly train!
    I would avoid units of more than 15 knight, because you risk to miss some attack. IMO better to field units of 10 sauri strong.


    Saurus guards
    100 pts for 5 (max 20)
    2 wound, save 4+, move 5, 3 attacks (2 celestite weapon, 1 jaw)
    It’s the same exact reasoning made for warriors: support from heroes is the key.
    looking at warriors, these guys have some advantage: they are less numerous (so it’s more probable you won’t lose attacks when in combat) and are less susceptible to battleshock. However, you won’t have a points discount if you take them in a full unit, and anyway they deliver a lesser number of attacks.
    All in all, I believe warriors are better, BUT if you don’t plan to field them, consider a 5-sauri unit, to soak wounds for your Slann / Kroak.


    Skinks
    60 pts for 10 (max 40)
    1 wound, save 6+ (5+ if equipped with starbuckler), move 8, 1 ranged attack, 1 melee attack, all of them with pitiful profile (to hit goes from 5+ fo 4+).
    It’s our cheapest battleline, and they gain 1 attack if a unit contains more than 15 models.
    They probably will be used in 2 varieties:
    10-skinks unit: fast and good objective grabbers and cheap disposable screen. Don't expect nothing more from them.
    40-skinks unit, with boltspitters: buff them with a Skink Priest (taking them to a respectable 4+ save and increasing their 80 shots to a “to hit 4+”) and a skink Starpriest (triggering 1 MW for each 6 “to wound”)
    with that configuration, on average you will roll 40 “to wounds”, delivering 6-7 MW.
    If you really like skinks army, go full-route on them; Starborne Fangs of Sotek can move 11” in the first round, buff them with a Priest, a Starpriest, a Starseer and a Stegadon chief; use Hunter’s steed and a command point to have them run for a grand total of 18”; shoot to weaken the target with mortal wounds, then charge 3d6+1 and each skink will also do THREE attacks in melee, for further mortal wounds for each 6s.
     
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    ARTILLERY

    Engine of the Gods
    260 pts
    I cannot tell why this is an artillery (and our only one, btw) but hey.
    12 wound, save 4+, move 8 (full health)
    it has been discussed in the “hero” section. Here I will add that there’s little reason to ever take more than one, and take that one only in case you are bringing some other big dino that could enjoy the healing effect.



    BEHEMOTHS


    Bastiladon
    220 pts
    10 wound, save 1+ (full health), move 5
    weird monster: at full health, it can be damaged only by MWs or you rolling 1s to save. It’s the perfect target for Mystic shield, of course: at that point you’re basically immune to physical damage, unless you roll double 1s (designer's commentary april 2020 says that rend cannot lower the save to less than 1+). great target for healing effects, can really be tanky, but beware of MWs.
    It comes in 2 profiles:
    Solar engine: shooting 24”, at full health its 9 shots, BUT at 4+ to hit, which is horrible. Its usefulness increases greatly (especially against chaos daemons) in a coalesced thunder lizard list, where can shoot TWICE.
    Ark of sotek: melee, 18 attacks, for each 6 to hit unmodified deal 1 MW. Unless you’re very lucky, it’s terribad.


    Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur.
    Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur.

    been discussed in the “hero” section. the mounts have the same profile, the differences are in the points (with the scarvet being 40 pts cheaper) and in the heroes (different command abilities, the oldblood got a ranged attack and can deal more melee damage). Both carnos excel in hunting enemy troops.
    To choose between them... it really depends on a number of things (artefacts, your troops composition, command abilities of the other heroes).
    Anyway, you want to buff them. If you pick a weapon as the sword of judgement to have a monster hunter, then give it to the ScarVet and try to buff to hit (Great Drake, command trait from an oldblood and Koatl’s claw subfaction, triggering d6 mortal wounds on each 4+ on 7 attacks).
    If you pick an Oldblood, you can increase the Carno’s attacks and search for blobs of infantry (oldblood command ability + coalesced thunder lizard + Great Drake= 6 jaws attacks hitting on 2+)


    Skink oracle on troglodon.
    260 pts.
    Already discussed in the hero section, it eats a behemoth and a hero slot. Nice but overpriced.


    Stegadon
    220 pts
    I won’t talk about stegageddon, I wan’t talk about stegageddon… who cares STEGADON STAMPEDE, HELL YEAH!!! 8 walking behemoths to rule them all!!!
    now, let’s be serious.
    10 wound, save 4+ (gains +1 save vs a single unit in melee of no more than 5 models), move 8 (full health)
    in close combat, it’s a nasty boy: at full health, it delivers 12 attacks, all of them at rend -1 and many with multiple damage, chance of mortal wounds when it charges (d3 on a 3+)
    It comes in 2 profiles, with different shooting weapons:
    Skystreak bow: 24”, 3 attacks, 3 damage each (on average only one will do something, but range 24” is nice)
    Sunfire throwers: roll a number of dices for any enemy model within 8”, for each 5+ deals 1 MW. great horde cleaner!
    Of course you’ll want to buff it, and you have a large number of ways to do it, even in a very cheap way:
    Starborne + hunter’s steed + Starseer ability: teleport it and charge at 3d6+1
    Coalesced Koatl’s claw + stegadon chief: damage reduction, 17 attacks hitting on 2+
    Coalesced thunder lizard + stegadon chief: damage reduction, 12 wounds 17 attacks hitting on 3+
    and so on…



    OTHER UNITS


    Chameleon skinks
    90 pts for 5
    1 wound, save 6+, move 8
    when in cover, they save at 3+, and they can be set in ambush, setting them anywhere on the battlefield at the end of the move phase, at more than 9” from enemy units. They can also disappear and reappear later.
    A unit of 5 shoots 10 darts, 3+/4+ no rend, 1 dam. They do a MW on a 6 to hit, but it’s kinda unreliable.
    not a great unit, but in a coalesced army that lacks LoSaT, at least they give some additional battlefield control.


    Kroxigor
    140 pts for 3
    4 wound, save 4+, move 8
    armed with jaws (1 attack that on a unmodified 6 inflicts a MW) and drakebite maul (4 attacks, 4+/3+ -1 rend 2dmg), 1 every 3 can have a Moon Hammer (stronger against hordes). Gain +1 to hit if nearby a skink unit
    Let’s consider only the Maul.
    that 4+ on to hit is pitiful, but the only way to increase it is via skink babysitting.
    Let’ try to pick a unit of 6 Coalesced Kroxigor. 280 pts.
    24 wounds, 24 mauls attacks, 12 jaws. Stick a Starpriest with them (babysit and poison ability) and those 36 attacks will hit at 3+ on charge, dealing on average 4 MWs. Plus the standard damage.
    All in all, if properly buffed, they can do something good. IMO always pick also a MoonHammer.


    Razordon Hunting Pack
    &
    Salamander hunting pack

    they both share many symilarities:
    each hunting pack costs 80 pts; max unit it’s 3 hunting packs
    each hunting pack is formed by a beast and 3 handlers (4 models: max in a unit it’s 12 models)
    each beast got 3 wounds, while the handlers only one; this means that a hunting pack got 6 wounds.
    The handlers don’t give any kind of bonus or ability, they act basically as ablative wounds and puny meleer.
    now, the differences:

    RAZORDON
    missile weapon 18”, 2d6 hits (3+/4+, no rend, 1 dam)
    melee: 3 attacks, 3+/3+ rend -2, 1 dam.
    if charged, can resist and shoot automatically, but shooting only a d6 (which is a sort of joke).
    Now, a maxed unit costs 240 pts and shoots an average of 21 spikes; only 7 will wound, with no rend.
    If you buff them with a skink priest, things will improve a little.
    they are far more dangerous in melee (-2 and 2 dam is solid), but their cost is too high

    SALAMANDERS
    missile weap. 12” (but with move 8”, it’s not that bad)… 4 hits 3+/3+ rend -2, d3 dam. with a chance for direct MWs on nat 6s (it burns!).
    melee: 3 attacks, 3+/3+, -2 rend, d3 dam.
    obviously, the possible buffs you could apply to razordons, work also for sallies.

    Conclusion:
    sometime, when you ask “it’s better the unit X or the unit Y?”, the answer is “it depends”. Not in this case. Burn Baby Burn.
    Starborne sallies are great, because with bravery 10 you will be much less vulnerable to battleshock due to the loss of handlers. It's much more a problem for Coalesced ones, but remember that you can also pick the handlers as fleeing models (if there's someone still alive); or just use the skink spell to avoid battleshock.


    Ripperdactyls riders
    80 pts
    3 wounds, save 5+, move 12”
    They took a hard nerf , but let’s see what are they now.
    they’ve got 1 spear attack and 3 jaws attacks at 4+/3+. no rend, 1 dam
    At the beginning of the combat, you can “mark” a unit, rerolling all yaws “to hit” on it. The yaws, come with a built-in multiplier (for each nat. 6, you score 2 hits).
    it’s clear that the number of attack is pitiful, especially given the “no rend”. Can they be optimized?
    FAQ april 2020: ripperdactyls chief cannot use its command ability more than once, to no way to buff the poor birds of prey, unless you spend A LOT of resources on them, using also a chief on stegadon
    the redeeming fact is that they can count on the ripper chief, e hero that with its command ability can give additional attacks to ALL melee weapons of a rippers unit, AND the bonus can stack. and it’s trivial for us to have 3 CPs since turn 1.
    So, for 1 cp, each rippers will deliver 6 (2+4) attacks, for 2 CPs it will be 8 (3+5).
    let’s see a couple of possible cheap builds with a 9 rippers unit and a really minimal suport: 240 pts.
    Starborne Fangs of Sotek, Hunter’s steed, ripper chief w 3 CPs, starseer: in the first round, move 15”, charge 3d6+1 (total average move+charge: 26”), 37 spear attacks (at 4+), 54 jaws attacks (at 4+ rerollable). On average, you are going to roll 65 “to wound”
    Coalesced, hunter’s steed, ripper chief w 3 CPs, skink priest: in the first round, move 12”+1d6+1”, charge 2d6+1 (total average move+charge 24”), 37 spear attack (at 4+), 65 jaws attacks (at 4+ rerollable) . On average, you are going to roll 75 “to wound”.
    a 9-rippers buffed build is costly (around 400 pts the ones above) of course, the more buffer you use, the better they become.
    On paper, the best rippers are the coalesced ones, which are able to hit more times and with more Attacks and could also enjoy the +1 to hit granted by their version of the shadowstrike battalion. A rippers build should always consider a Starpriest, to trigger mortal wounds on 6s to wound.



    Terradons riders
    90 pts
    3 wounds, save 6+, move 16”
    2 different shooting weapons (pick sunleech bolas), 4 jaws attack by the terradon, and the once-per-battle ability “Deadly cargo” (when you pass across on an enemy unit, with any kind of move, roll a die for each terradon, and on a 4+ delivers d3 MWs)
    Their personal buffer is the terradon chief, that let them release the deadly cargo on a 2+.
    Don’t even think to play terradons without a chief.
    the main utility granted by these guys is the dealing of lots of MWs, then try to do something more with shooting and possibly also CC.
    To deliver the Cargo, you need move, so Fangs of Sotek is good, but anyway you can have a huge mobility even with coalesced: hunter’s steed, skink priest and a CP will give them a 16+7+2d6+1” (average 31”!) move/charge. And a unit of 9 terradons will be able to deal around 7d3 MWs, followed by around 32 bolas attacks and 36 (or 45) melee attacks. the potential damage is HUGE, but 9 terradons + chief are 360 pts, so pick your target carefully.




    FORGEWORLD MODELS

    Dread Saurian
    520 pts
    The King of the jungle is back.
    35 wounds, save 4+, move 10 (full health)
    This one is brutal.
    Its damage profile is good but not terrifying, even at full health (a grand total of 10 attacks, but the 4 most damaging ones, the jaws and the tail, are just 4+ to hit). A VLoZD is scarier.
    However, it has some nice abilities: on a 2+ it inflicts MWs on charge, got a variable (6+ or 4+) chance to ignore spells’ effects, once per battle can halve the bravery of enemy units within 12”, imposes a -1 to bravery and when it dies can inflict other MWs.
    Its base is HUGE and it simply cannot be ignored, so the enemy must employ resources to deal with it. And 35 wounds are not a joke. This is its main utility: it’s the king of Distraction Carnifex, and it lets you do things with the rest of your army while the opponent struggles to bring it down.
    if you really want to squeeze the most out of it, buff your big beast with defensive buffs: a skink starseer will be able to give it a 3+ save, and a Starpriest can give it also a -1 to be hit.
    In a Starborne faction you can easily exploit the superior move of your army to take control of the battlefield, and you can place the Dread Saurian wherever it hurts the most thanks to LoSaT.
    in a Coalesced faction, just pus hit forward: an additional jaw attack is powerful and, most of all, it gains damage reduction, which means it will be a real nightmare to kill it. With Thunderlizard i twill even have 37 wounds.
     
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    MAGIC – SERAPHON LORE


    Seraphon lore is divided into 2 cathegories:
    we have Slann spells and Skinks spells, plus the “unique” spells



    Unique spells

    Celestial Deliverance
    (Lord Kroak)
    casting value 7+
    Can be cast up to 3 times, with increasing casting value: 7+, 8+, 9+.
    Pick 3 units within 10”, each one on a 2+ suffers d3 MWs (3 MWs if chaos daemon).
    Kroak got the rule Arcane Vassal, so stuck an astrolith bearer near him, use the Sage’s staff constellation, and you’ll cast the spell with a +3, in a 16” range from a vassal (or Kroak himself).


    Comet’s call
    (Lord Kroak, Slann, Oracle on Troglodon)
    Casting value 7+.
    Pick d3 units on the whole battlefield; each one suffers d3 MWs. on a casting roll 10+, pick d6 units. Pretty potent, as you don’t even need LoS and you can target heroes.
    It’s not a unmodified roll, so grab as many bonuses to cast you can, and drop d6 comets


    Control Fate
    (Skink Starseer)
    Casting value 7+.
    Pick an enemy unit within 18”, subtract 1 from its save rolls.
    OR
    Pick a friendly enemy unit within 18”, add 1 to its save rolls.
    Pretty potent. Brutal when you wanna see dead a tough target (because there's a whole world of difference when you can force a -1 to saves, when you have a Carnosaurs that deals 5 wounds with a single hit), Vital when you wanna increase the resistance of a key unit (a horde of 40 saurus warriors, a Bastiladon, a Dread Saurian). Never underestimate this. Never.


    Blazing Starlight
    (Skink Starpriest)
    Casting value 6+.
    Pick a enemy unit within 18”, subtract 1 from its To hit rolls.
    It stacks nicely with buffs and debuffs available to our army. Use in combo with Geminids and control fate for maximum power.



    Slann spells

    Each Slann (Kroak included) knows one of these. Thanks to the rule “Contemplations of the Ancient One”, 1 Slann can swap a Lore spell with another one, but only at the end of your hero phase

    Celestial Apotheosis
    casting value 5+,
    Pick a friendly unit within 18”, heal 1 wound. on a 10+ heal d3. (secondary effect: give -1 to bravery to nearby enemy).
    It’s another spell that can be triggered in its empowered version by modified rolls, so it’s not bad at all and can be played in combo with other healing effects to ensure your dinos will stay alive. I would rank this as second best Slann spell.


    Walk between Realms
    casting value 6+,
    Pick a friendly unit within 18”, that unit can fly.
    If only the command ability of the Slann wouldn’t be very similar… never take this one at the beginning of the battle.


    Mystical Unforging
    casting value 7+
    pick a enemy hero with an artefact within 12”. d3 MW and a 1/3 chance to break the carried artefact by said hero.
    it helps you in killing a weak hero in a key position, but alas it works only on heroes that actually carry an artefact.
    Situational at best, never take it at the beginning of the battle.


    Celestial equilibrium
    casting value 7+
    add +1 to cast, dispel and unbind for all friendly wizards (but not the caster).
    Kinda meh, the Slann loses a spell without even enjoying the bonus.
    I would consider it only if you’re planning a magical bombardment, with a list that includes also Kroak and another wizard.


    Stellar Tempest
    casting value 8+
    Pick an enemy unit within 24”; roll a die for each model in the target unit, 1 MW for each 5+.
    finally a serious anti horde, with some nice MW spam, that can easily target the opponent since turn one even if you go first. One of the best spell we have, there’s really no contest. This should always be included in your list.


    Drain magic
    casting value 9+
    Dispel all unbound endless spells within 24”. Pick it when you face a heavy magic army that uses them (possibly more than 2).



    Skinks spells

    No “Contemplations of the Ancient One” for skinks, so be careful with your choices

    Celestial Harmony
    casting value 5+
    Pick a friendly unit within 18”, that unit is immune to battleshock tests. On a roll of 10+, it affects all friendly units within 18”
    If you run Coalesced, you know you want this one. BUT skinks spells are good, and you could always use a CP to avoid losses due to low bravery.


    Hand of Glory
    casting value 6+
    Pick a friendly unit within 18”, that unit can re-roll all 1s to hit until your next hero phase.
    It’s almost the only way we have to re-roll 1s. It’s a must have for any kind of army (Starborne or Coalesced).


    Extend Astromatrix
    casting value 6+
    Pick a basic terrain element (damned, arcane, inspiring…) within 18; “good” effects apply only to Seraphon, while “bad” ones affects only enemies. Of course, if you know you are facing an army that uses magic, it could be good to negate a +1 to cast… but it’s situational at best.


    Fiery convocation
    casting value 7+
    Pick a enemy unit within 18”; up til your next hero phase, roll a dice at the end of each phase: on a 6+, inflict d3 MWs.
    Weird spell: basically (not counting double turns) you are going to roll 12 dices (6 in your turn and 6 in the opponent’s), hoping to score as many 6s you can. it’s 2d3 on average, but I wouldn’t count too much on statistic on this. Excellent for lucky players.


    Bind Endless Spell
    casting value 7+
    Pick a Endless Spell within 1”; up til your next hero phase, it’s a bound spell.
    Basically, it lets you mess with opponent’s endless spells, which could be truly nice, but it’s another situational spell.


    Tide of Serpents
    casting value 8+
    Pick an enemy unit within 12”; roll a die for each model in the target unit, 1 MW for each 5+.
    it’s basically as “stellar tempest”, but with lower range. Its additional value is that you can cast TWO anti-horde spell (leaving aside endless spells).


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    As you can see, our spells covers basically 2 different aspects: direct damage OR buff / debuffs, plus some weird situational utility.
    Keep in mind that, especially with skinks, you will always find yourself in some difficulty: being them able to cast just one spell, you will need to take hard decisions.
    It’s up to you to decide what kind of power you want to develope: Slanns are better equipped with damage and healing spells, while skinks excel in buffs / debuffs.
    An army with Slann and Kroak could push for a magical barrage, while a Thunder Lizard could immensely enjoy a “protective” magical phase.
    It’s always good, anyway, to have something for everything.
     
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    MAGIC – ENDLESS SPELLS


    With the new cool ability “Bound Endless Spells”, these spells deserve a dedicated guide.
    Bound predatory endless spells cast by Seraphons, can only be moved by a player using a Seraphon army. We can still cast “standard” (unbound) endless spell.

    Please note that you can pick as bound spells also all non-predatory spell. The only reason to do it, is when you plan to cast the 24” area spell that automatically dispels ALL unbound endless spells and you don’t want to blast away your Balewind Vortex.

    There is a couple of differences between bound and unbound:
    1 - Bound spells cost 10 more than their basic version
    2 – Bound spells don’t care about the realm you’re playing in: they never receive buffs.

    Designers' commentary april 2020: you cannot take twice the same spell in the bound + unboun version


    Aethervoid pendulum
    50 pts / 60 if bound
    casting value 6+, predatory spell
    6"+8" move, dealing d6 MW to units moved over and where it ends. Once set, it can move only in one direction, so no swing back and forth.
    not exceptional, but it's an alternative to mass MW spam, as it deals d6 MW also to single models, which can be handy. The Bound version It’s probably not as much attractive as other predatory spells, as its move is limited and you can plan around it.


    Balewind Vortex
    40 pts / 50 if bound
    casting value 6+; it’s not a predatory spell.
    wizard gains +1 to saves, range bonus and +1 spell. Huge bonuses, but it cannot move.
    A wizard on a BW cannot stay inside a Realmshape engine (Designers' commentary april 2020).
    If you play Starborne, since the wizard and the vortex are considered a single model, you can use Lord of Space and Time to teleport the wizard, which is not forced to stand as a sitting duck (you set up the unit, so technically it’s not a move, and it has been clarified by a couple of FAQ).


    Burning head
    30 pts / 40 if bound
    casting value 7+, predatory spell
    3"+9" move. d3 MWs to crossed units and reroll 1s to attacks for the units wholly within 9" from it.
    You don’t pick this spell for damaging the opponent, you use it to buff your “to hit”, placing in it a way that your unit enjoy the re-rolls, and your enemy don't. Especially useful for units able to deliver lots of attacks and are not so large (6 kroxigors, 6 rippers, a mounted hero), OR large units that are not in melee (a horde of 40 skinks with poisoned shooting). It's one of our 2 only ways to re-roll 1s to hit (the other one is the skink spell Hand of Glory).


    Chronomantic Cogs
    80 pts / 90 if bound it’s not a predatory spell.
    casting value 7+; it gives +1 spell and reroll saves (for you) OR +2 to move and charge (for everyone).
    costly but useful, especially for Starborne armies: a skink starpriest can cast it and the Slann uses it for an immediate +1 spell / d3 CCP, or you can use the bonus to charge when you plan your deep strike.
    IMPORTANT:
    the bound version works in a different way then the standard one.
    Standard: you set the effect during your hero phase and it lasts til your next one, so you get bonus spell in the first turn.
    Bound: you set the effect at the end of your hero phase and it lasts til your next one. So no bonus spell in the first turn.


    Emerald lifeswarm
    50 pts / 60 if bound
    casting value 6+, predatory spell
    heal d3 wounds / raise dead models
    This is one of the BEST bound spell we can field. Vital if you want to play a resilient coalesced army, with damage reduction and healing, can be impressive in a Thunder Lizard subfactions with an EotG and the Slann healing spells, for a potential of 3d3 heal to your buffed dinosaurs, and anyway useful to bring back the slain models of your hordes.


    Geminids of Uhl-Gysh
    60 pts / 70 if bound
    casting value 7+, predatory spell
    18"+8" move. two different models, each one inflict 1d3 MWs and debuff the enemy units (-1 attack or -1 to hit). The units targeted by each model must be different. Can easily hit targets since the first battle round AND it’s pretty useful and potent. It’s a top-tier spell.


    Malevolent maelstrom
    10 pts / 20 if bound
    casting value 7+, predatory spell
    it’s exceptionally cheap, and it's the only really good thing about it. But hey, it can offer an additional dispel attempt, so if your list is at 1980 pts and you don’t have a Slann that rerolls dispels attempts...


    Prismatic palisade
    30 pts / 40 if bound
    casting value 5+
    lots of utilities: block LoS, screen from charges… not bad at all. It’s not a predatory spell, and I don’t think it’s worth the 10 pts increase.


    Purple sun
    50 pts / 60 if bound
    casting value 8+, predatory spell
    6"+9" move. You kill models, letting us deal with large elite units. Especially useful against things with FNP or groups of 15+ models with 2 wounds each.
    Scary and exceptionally useful, but the range is not that great, and our teleports work at the end of the move phase. Remember to maximize your bonus to cast (shift the constellation to sage’s staff).


    Quicksilver swords
    30 pts / 40 if bound
    casting value 6+, predatory spell
    10"+8" move. roll 12 dices and inflict MW for each 6+.... 5+ vs chaos.
    Pick it only If you know you face chaos, as it's a cheap and great spell AND, even if not bound, to us is much less scary.


    Ravenak’s gnashing jaws
    30 pts / 40 if bound
    casting value 8+, predatory spell
    6"+12" move. d3 MW and -1 bravery for units crossed by it or near it at the end of its move. It's of little use for us, but it’s relatively cheap and can help in killing some character behind screens.


    Soulsnare shakles
    40 pts / 50 if bound
    casting value 5+
    nice denial zone, messes with movement and deal MWs.
    It's (relatively) cheap and useful, so you can't go wrong with it. Not a predatory spell


    Suffocating gravetide
    20 pts / 30 if bound
    casting value 6+, predatory spell
    4"+8" move. d3 MW, -1 to bravery, can give cover.
    yep, it’s cheap, but there are far better choices.


    Umbral spellportal
    70 pts / 80 pts if bound
    casting value 5+
    if you really want to hit at full power the enemy lines with a Purple sun by turn 1… it’s truly good, but it’s really costly, as you can cast through it only one spell each turn OR move one endless spell through it, so it means you will use it only once each round. Not a predatory spell.



    As you can see, there are some spells that are truly powerful, some other ones are situational, and then there is the garbage.
    - we live on buffs, debuffs and synergies, so at the moment spells as Burning head, Lifeswarm and Geminids are almost always golden;
    - other spells are good (Cogs, Purple sun) and there are also funny combo to mess with opponent’s movement (palisade + shackles), but they are not a no-brainer.
    - I don’t think we will ever play things as suffocating gravetide.

    that said, even with spells that are usually not worth their cost, you can obtain interesting effects. Example:
    - Ravenak it's a fairly big model, as a bound endless spell you could use it to screw with your opponent's positioning.
     
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    ARTEFACTS OF POWER


    You get one artefact for free, plus another one for each battalion.
    we have Slann, Skinks and Saurus artefact, plus the “unique” ones available to sub-factions.
    (please note that, when you pick a sub-faction, the first artefact MUST be the one of the subfaction, so if you want a more generic one, you are forced to field a battalion… and some artefacts are so good that you want a battalion almost just for that)

    Then, there are ALL the artefacts specifics to realms.


    Slann artefacts

    Zoetic dial
    secretly record a certain battle round. at the beginning of that round, heal all wounds taken and reroll all saves. Nah.

    Light of Dracothion
    once per battle, you can unbind / dispel automatically 1 spell within 15”. Nice to shut down that nasty spell cast with a roll of 11, but it’s so situational I would never pick this one.

    Prism of Amintok
    Once per battle, pick an enemy unit within 12” and deal from 1 to d6 MWs. Move on.

    Itxi Grubs
    during EACH hero phase (so yeah, also during your opponent’s) heal 1 wound and can reroll 1 cast / one unbind attempt. This one is solid; it replicates the “rerolling” command trait but also with double healing.

    Plaque of dominion
    in your hero phase pick a enemy hero within 12”; up til your next one he fights at the end of the fight phase and suffers -1 to cast/dispel/unbind. It can be strong, especially if you plan to move your slann to the frontline, surrounded by warriors / guards. 12” range is pretty limited, though.

    Throne of the last Gods
    +4 to move and +1 to wounds. More move is nice, but I’m not impressed.



    Saurus artefacts

    Blade of realities
    pick 1 melee weapon, add -1 to rend and 1 to dam (this one if you target a enemy hero). Nothing exceptional, but can be good on a Sunblood or on a ScarVet on Carno.

    Sigils of the Prime Hunter
    you can deal additional MWs on a unit you’re in melee with. Another nice item, but not a “must-have”

    Bloodrage pendant
    +1 to number of attacks if the number of wounds taken is equal or superior to the wounds characteristic. it’s no good.



    Skink artefacts

    Incandescent rectrices
    When the bearer dies roll a dice. 1-3 it dies, 4-6 it heals all wounds and cancel every remaining wounds allocated to it. I’m not a fan of random effects, but I could gladly take a chance for a double digit Stegadon chief or a EotG.

    Cloak of feathers
    -1 to hit the bearer, +4 to move and can fly. Stop dreaming, here’s your flying hard-to-hit stegadon with 12” move.

    Sacred stegadon helm
    Add 1 to save rolls (always) AND 1 to damage made by bearer (only during the charge). Now, the additional dam doesn’t apply to mount’s weapon so it’s not that great by itself, but if you combine the +1 save with the buffs granted by a skink priest or Starpriest, to have save 2+ is trivial.



    Sub-faction artefacts

    when you pick a sub-faction (basically always), the first artefact MUST be the one of the subfaction

    Starborne - Dracothion’s tail
    Godbeast pendant: the artefact got the same exact effect of “incandescent rectrices”, which is cool by itself…. but this one it’s not tied to the skink keyword. Very good.

    Starborne - Fangs of Sotek
    Serpent God dagger: pick one weapon of the bearer. If you wound an enemy model and that model doesn’t die, roll a die. On a 5+ you kill that model. This can be brutal and game changing… the downsides are that it will happen just once in a while, you cannot plan a tactic on it and your hero will have a target painted on its back.
    It’s better to give it to a hero with high mobility, that can actually chase optimal targets.

    Coalesced - Koatl’s claw
    Eviscerating blade: Pick one weapon of the bearer. For each 6 “to hit” unmodified, you deal 2 additional MWs. Give it to a Sunblood or to a ScarVet on Carno with blade or spear.

    Coalesced - Thunder Lizard
    Fusil of conflagration: in the shooting phase, you’ve got a 50% chance to inflict MWs to a enemy unit within 12” (from d3 up to d6), breaking the item on a roll of 1. On average, we’re talking about 6-8 MWs in a whole game.
    Not that great, but given that you must take it, at least don’t give it to something you want to keep in the rearlines.



    Artefacts of the Realms

    You can declare that your army comes from a Realm. At that point, you have access to that Realm’s artefacts (you can find them in the Malign Sorcery book).
    Each realm got 12 artefacts (6 weapons and 6 relics) and there are 7 realms, so… I’m NOT going to list all of them, I will pick only a couple of notable artefacts for each realm.


    Ghyran
    Ghyrstrike: Pick a melee weapon to be: +1 to hit and wound. Give it to a sunblood and watch him rage
    Greenglade Flask: Once per battle, in your hero phase, heal D6 wounds.

    Ghur
    Amberglaive. Pick one melee weapon. Add 1 to hit rolls and 1" to range (up to 3"). Hit your enemies while staying behind that warriors screen.
    Gryph-feather Charm. -1 to hits targeting the bearer, and +1" to movement. Powerful and worth some serious consideration.

    Chamon
    Rune Blade. Pick one melee weapon. It has a Rend of -3. Are you thinking to a ScarVet (on Carno) celestite warspear? me too.
    Hydroxskin Cloak. Grants fly. After the bearer moves, pick a unit that the bearer passes across and roll a die. On a 3+, they take D3 mortal wounds. Fly is good and MWs are good.

    Aqshy
    Thermalrider Cloak. +4" Movement and can fly. Do you remember the skink-only artefact “Cloak of Feather”? Congratulations, now you have also a flying 14" move carnosaur. Have fun.
    Ignax's Scales. Negate mortal wounds on a 4+.

    Shyish
    Ethereal Amulet. Makes the hero immune to save modifiers. Give it to a Sunblood, cast Mystic shield and have a melee dude with save 3+ immune to rend and rerolling 1s.
    Ragged Cloak. Once per battle during the opponent's shooting phase: bearer cannot be chosen as the target of an attack until the phase is over. Sometime it can save your life.

    Ulgu
    Hard to choose, I will name 3 items
    Sword of Judgement. Pick one melee weapon. If the hit roll for this weapon against a HERO or MONSTER is 6+ (modifiable), that attack does D6 mortal wounds and the attack sequence ends. This weapon is probably one of the most powerful ones in the Malign Sorcery book.
    Spellmirror. If a friendly unit within 6" is affected by a spell, roll a die. On a 5+, they aren't affected. On a 1, the mirror breaks
    Doppelganger Cloak. Once per battle, the bearer cannot be chosen as the target of an attack with melee weapons unless the bearer has made attacks earlier in that phase.

    Hysh
    Aetherquartz Brooch. Each time you spend a command point, you get it back on a 5+. We spend A LOT of command points. Amazing item, ATM one of the best we can pick.
    Mirrored Cuirass. Negate mortal wounds on a 5+. On a 6+, pick an enemy unit within 6"; that unit suffers 1 mortal wound. Not that great.
     
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    BATTALIONS


    Battalions are a vital part of an army, but not a mandatory one, you can play with no battalions at all… this would let you save points (as each battalion comes with a cost) but you won’t have the bonuses granted by said battalion.

    Each battalion gives basically 3 things:
    - a certain kind of bonus to the units that are part of it
    - an additional command point (that alone is worth 50 pts and we need all the CPs we can)
    - an additional artefact for your army (given that when you take a subfaction, your first artefact is mandatory, you NEED a battalion to take an artefact of your choice… for example, the Cloak of Feathers or Eeterquartz Brooch)

    the downsides are:
    - Battalions are COSTLY (around 150 pts on average… to have 2 battalions will eat 15% of your points in a 2000 army. You could field Lord Kroak)
    - the choice is limited and some units don’t have a dedicated battalion (poor Saurus Guards…)

    Given the cost of Battalions, you don’t want to field them at minimum cost.
    Both Starborne and Coalesced armies got 4+1 battalions - the names are identical, but the granted bonuses are different.



    Starborne armies


    Sunclaw
    Cost: 160 pts
    Units: 1 Saurus Oldblood / Saurus Sunblood; 3 units of Saurus Warriors
    Bonus: additional -1 to rend to celestite weapons

    The battalion is pretty good, your saurus horde will have spears with rend -1, and clubs will have a terrifying rend -2. Remember that this bonus applies also to the weapon of your hero.
    It’s melee focused, so one-trick pony, but it’s pretty easily to optimize your army.
    Example with Dracothion’s tail: The saurus Oldblood can be on Carnosaur (which will be an excellent bearer of the artefact that 50% doesn’t let him die): move forward your Oldblood, drop a 40 Sauri unit in charge range, charge at 6+ rerollable (Cogs + Hunter’s steed) with your unit and fight with the bonuses granted by the command ability of the Oldblood. In the meantime, LoSaT something to increase the pressure on your opponent.


    Firelance
    Cost: 160 pts
    Units: 1 Saurus ScarVeteran (it can be on CO or on Carno); 3 units of Saurus Knights
    Bonus: 1 Mortal Wound on each unmodified roll of 6 on “to wound” for celestite weapons (it applies also to the weapon of the ScarVet)

    The battalion is pretty good, as it turns your charging dudes into a potential death machine.
    Example with Dracothion’s tail: move forward your ScarVet, drop a 10 Sauri unit in charge range; charge at 6+ rerollable (Cogs + Hunter’s steed) with your unit and fight with the bonuses granted by the command ability of the ScarVet. The spears alone are 23 attacks, and on average 4 of them will generate 2 hits, then you will deal double of the wounds, threatening MWs.
    In the following round, LoSaT the unit away and charge with a second unit, maybe buffed also by a Starpriest, to enjoy double MWs on each 6.


    Shadowstrike
    Cost: 170 pts
    Units: 1 Skink Starpriest OR Priest; 1 unit of Terradons OR Ripperdactyls; 2 Units of Skinks / Chama Skinks
    Bonus: you can set up units in reserve, and set up this unit at the end of the move phase, anywhere on the battlefield, at more than 9” from enemy.

    I’m torned about this battalion. With Dracothion’s Tail you already can call units from reserve… yes, Shadowstrike don’t have the limitation of “must be set within 18” from the Slann”, but LoSaT exists.
    With Fangs of Sotek, the units placed in reserve with Shadowstrike won’t enjoy the +3” to move bonus. And for alpha strikes, you WANT to have terradons (or rippers) on the battlefield since the start of turn 1. At least, it includes skinks (a battleline you are going to pick anyway)
    So, is it good? yes, more battlefield control is always good and flyiers / skinks blob appearing from nowhere are a threat. Is it worth 170 pts? I don’t think so.
    Anyway, you can still drop you terradons and have a reliable charge, but you need cogs and Hunter's steed.


    Thunderquake
    Cost: 130 pts
    Units: 1 EotG OR Stegadon Chief; 3 unit of Kroxigor OR Hunting pack; 2 Bastiladons / Stagadons
    Bonus: in your hero phase heal 1 wound to each unit. d3 if within a friendly Slann.

    A pretty nice battalion, and also the cheapest one (which is compensated by the fact that the units are costly).
    The healing buffs should work better if a kroxigor unit is included (only because in the case of hunting packs, you are going to sacrifice skinks handlers as ablative wounds, and those cannot be healed back), but anyway you want it for the big dinos.
    Starborne dinos don’t have the additional wounds granted by Coalesced Thunderlizard, but the battalion works nicely nonetheless.
    Healing is always good (you can stack many other healing tricks to keep healthy your big guys: EotG + emerald lifeswarm + celestial apotheosis, for a potential of 4d3 healed wounds) and with Fangs of Sotek you can place your Dinocastle at the center of the board since turn 1.
    With Dracothion’s Tail it’s even funnier: place the whole battalion in reserve, LoSaT your Slann wherever you want and drop the dinos around him (that should definitely give the enemy something to think about). And the DT artefact can keep alive and kicking your main dinosaur. Love it.


    Eternal Starhost
    Cost: 200 pts
    Units: 6 battalions plus many other units
    Bonus: d3 additional CPs / round.
    Usable only in narrative, apocalypse battles with something in the order of 5000 pts per army. Move on.



    Coalesced armies

    Sunclaw
    Cost: 140 pts
    Units: 1 Saurus Oldblood / Saurus Sunblood; 3 units of Saurus Warriors
    Bonus: additional -1 to rend to jaws weapons.

    The battalion is really strong. The bonus to jaws is less appealing than the one to weapons (granted by the Starborne version), as weapons’ profile is 4+/3+, while jaws are stuck with 5+/4+, but nonetheless it can give a couple of significant boosts:
    1 - Coalesced warriors always got 2 jaws attacks (without the need to be more than 14) and Koatl’s Claw hits with jaws at 4+
    2 - the bonus works for every unit. The Carnosaur’s jaws of your Oldblood will hit 4 times (at 3+) with rend -2
    Of course, this battalion MUST be played with Koatl’s Claw.


    Firelance
    Cost: 160 pts
    Units: 1 Saurus ScarVeteran (it can be on CO or on Carno); 3 units of Saurus Knights
    Bonus: +3 to run and charge if wholly within the ScarVet.

    Another battalion made to be played as Koatl’s Claw.
    +3 to charge is massive, combine it with Hunter’s steed and a Skink Starseer and you will charge 3d6 + 4”. rerollable. On average, you will threaten a 24” bubble.
    a 10 knights unit on charge will deliver 70 attacks (rerolling 1s with the spell Hand of Glory), being an excellent target for the Comm. Ab. of the Scarvet (meaning on average 13-14 additional hits). If you squeeze in also a starpriest, the amount of Mortal Wounds on 6s to wound is going to be something.
    Your ScarVet can be on Cold One (cheap version) or on Carno. If the latter, when you’ll kill a model, you’re going to run and charge with +3, basically adding 6” to your total move.


    Shadowstrike
    Cost: 150 pts
    Units: 1 Skink Starpriest OR Priest; 1 unit of Terradons OR Ripperdactyls; 2 Units of Skinks / Chama Skinks
    Bonus: pick a enemy unit visible to the Priest / Starpriest, add +1 to hit that unit.

    No Deep Strike for poor coalesced… if you want some “teleport” to grab distant objectives, you need to insert one unit of those chameleon skinks.
    It’s a battalion that works generally with coalesced (no matter the sub-faction), picking the bonus to jaws attacks to Ripperdactyls and the damage reduction.
    Select your target, each unbuffed ripper will deliver 4 tearing jaws attacks at 3+ rerollable; buff your rippers with 1-2 command abilities by the ripperchief / stagadon chief, buff them with the Starpriest’ Staff and they should be able to do something.
    Coalesced Terradons won’t enjoy particularly Shadowstrike: their main utility is the dropping of MWs, and this is unaffected by the Battalion. Of course, you could use the bonus for the following “standard” attacks.
    If you field shadowstrike, you should pick a large unit of 40 skinks with boltspitters: buff them with a Skink Starseer (and a skink Starpriest plus Hand of Glory): we’re talking about 80 shots hitting at 4+, rerolling 1s, triggering 1 MW for each 6 “to wound”. if the Priest Star-stone Staff kicks in, your skinks can also run and have a save 4+.
    So yes, a shadowstrike with 6-9 rippers, 40 skinks and 5 chama skinks, would be very powerful. Just protect your squishy heroes.


    Thunderquake
    Cost: 150 pts
    Units: 1 EotG OR Stegadon Chief; 3 unit of Kroxigor OR Hunting pack; 2 Bastiladons / Stagadons
    Bonus: in your hero phase choose: the units can be swift (run and still shoot / charge), OR savage (add 1 to the number of melee attacks).

    The only battalion that costs more than the starborne version. You know you want to play a Thunderlizard Thunderquake, there’s really no reason to play this battalion with a different sub-faction.
    Commander choice:
    EotG: support it with emerald lifeswarm and celestial apotheosis, for a potential of 3d3 healing to your guys (which already have damage reduction and 2 additional wounds)
    Stegadon Chief as General, buffed also by the command ability of a skink priest… it’s able to deliver 21 melee attacks hitting at 2+.
    Generic dinosaurs:
    Bastiladon with laser is not that great, but thunderlizard can shoot twice, and swift ones can compensate their awful 5” move.
    Stegadon: try to always bring one armed with Sunfire thrower. if you already have a chief with it, go for the Bow.
    “lesser” additional unit
    Kroxigor enjoy immensely Thunderquake: each savage kroxy can deliver 5 Maul and 3 jaws attacks.
    Savage Salamanders in melee are vicious too (5 burning jaws rend -2 d3 dam? yes please).
    Leave home the razordons.


    Eternal Starhost
    see what’s already being said for Starborne. it’s for Apocalypse.
     
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    TIPS & TACTICS – STARBORNE


    Premise: Keep in mind that this won’t be a specific guide on all the possible tactics and strategies, I’m not pretending this will cover all the bases, but I’m going to give you just some hint on what you should look when building a Starborne army and planning a tactic.
    I’m certain you will be able to exploit the possibilities granted by Starborne, coming up with synergies and builds that here are not mentioned, this is just a friendly intro.

    Starborne is an army that relies on:
    - a movement / deployment which is usually stronger than your opponent’s (LoSaT / ability to call units from reserve). Always keep in mind that LoSaT gives you the most when you teleport big buffed units.
    - increased resistance to battleshock (Bravery 10 means that you often don’t need to spend precious CPs to avoid your lizards running away as puny warmbloods)
    - the ability to call reinforcements with Celestial Conjuration (albeit you cannot plan a tactic on it, as those reinforcements usually will be limited to a couple of small units in a whole game).
    - the ability to force your opponent to play cautiously (both with Dracothion’sTail and Fangs of Sotek)

    As you will see, all Starborne armies favor finesse and smart play, while still being able to deliver concentrated, powerful blows



    Starborne Units

    If we look at the bonuses granted by Starborne and Coalesced, it’s pretty clear that some units, while being always a good pick, work better in a certain kind of army.

    Starborne LOVE:

    Skinks
    Large blocks of skinks as battleline work greatly in Starborne, as they don’t gain great bonuses from Coalesced, while they enjoy many of the goodies granted by Starborne.
    For example, in the hero phase, a skink priest and a skink starpriest (thanks to Ability, command ability and Hand of Glory spell) will be able to buff a unit, which you can LoSaT wherever you need to deliver 80 shots at 4+ rerolling 1s, triggering mortal wounds on each 6+ to wound.
    Skinks in a Fangs of Sotek subfaction get also an additional move and the ability to shoot and run away if charged.
    Basically, you will rarely go wrong if you pick skinks in Starborne.

    Slann / Lord Kroak:
    Don’t get me wrong: our fav. frogs are always a great pick, in any kind of army, but in Starborne they truly shine.
    1 – they can help you in summoning units. Not that great but still useful when you know you can spare a spell
    2 – if you place them on a Balewind Vortex, they can still move tnx to LoSaT.
    3 – in a Dracothion’s Tail they know 1 extra spell and can re-roll one cast/dispel/unbind in each hero phase, which is powerful

    Salamanders
    Salamanders are a great unit in any kind of Seraphon army; Starborne salamanders only lose the additional bite attack given by coalesced, but they gain:
    1 – resistance to battleshock: handlers work as ablative wounds, and having bravery 10 (instead of their horrible 5) is exceptionally useful to minimize the risk of having your precious sallies run away
    2 – a big unit of sallies can be buffed in the hero phase (for example 3+ save with a skink priest and 2+ vs shooting with a Slann), and LoSaT where you need, landing those sweet 12 shooting Attacks

    Terradon riders
    Terradons is a solid unit that gains nothing from coalesced (scaly skin won’t save your dudes), while can gain nice bonuses from Starborne armies: they rely on move and Fangs of Sotek increases their movement in the first round, making them a great threat since turn 1, forcing your opponent to set-up cautiously


    As a general suggestion, any Starborne army should always include no less than a couple of these units.


    OTHER notable UNITS

    Skink Priest
    Starborne or Coalesced make no difference for the guy, but many skink-based units love Starborne and the Priest will buff ‘em all. It's basically mandatory.

    Skink Starpriest / Starseer
    Powerfull buffs to all Seraphon, one of them should be always included.

    Saurus warriors / knights
    They both works in Coalesced and in Starborne: coalesced usually gives them the most (buffing them even outside battalions), but they can be really strong also with Starborne, but only when played within the battalions that gives them the proper buffs (Sunclaw and Firelance).
    See the post regarding battalions on how to buff them.

    Kroxigors / Bastiladon / Stegadon
    Coalesced usually gives more to these units: Kroxigors jaws are buffed, bastiladons and Stegadons enjoy the scaly skin and the additional wounds with thunderlizard.
    however, Starborne gives them a solid niche in the thunderquake battalion, tnx to the healing effect, which lets you plan some synergy with the other healing effects we have at disposal (Slann, C. Apotheosis, E. Lifeswarm, EotG can grant up to 4d3 healed wounds/turn).

    Dread Saurian
    you can buff the beast and LoSaT it. Have fun.



    Dracothion’s Tail

    DT comes with 2 very strong abilities:
    Appear on Command: (for each unit you have on the battlefield, you can set another one in reserve. At the end of the move phase, you can call on the battlefield one or more units from the reserve, setting them within 18" from a Slann and more than 9" from enemy's units.)
    Command trait for slann (knows 1 extra spell and can reroll 1 cast/dispel/unbind each hero phase

    It’s pretty clear that a DT list should be planned to optimize these goodies.

    A Slann / Lord Kroak is mandatory, and you need to exploit the superior placing of units granted by Appear on Command, keeping in mind 3 simple things:
    1) - if you call units from reserve, the best ones are those that can already act at their full potential when they arrive on the battlefield: for example, Salamanders can immediately shoot (even if they won’t be buffed)
    2 – be ready to have buffs for charge when you plan to call units that must physically assault the target (hunter’s steed, Skink Starseer)
    3 – force your opponent to play in a cautious way. 2 full units of Sallies or a Dread Saurian that can appear everywhere will almost surely result in a defensive set-up.

    Remember also that you can adopt different styles, for example:
    - call units one by one, each time going for the soft spot
    - go all in (imagine LoSaT your Slann and drop around it a whole thunderquake starhost on the weakest side of your opponent’s army)


    Fangs of Sotek

    FoS comes with 2 very strong abilities:
    First to battle: add 3" to move to skinks units, in the first round of battle. It favors alpha strikes without being reliant on teleport.
    additional Command ability: allows a skinks or chameleon skinks unit that has been charged, to shoot at the end of your opponent’s charge phase and possibly (on a 4+) move away, thus denying the charge.

    First to battle works on every units with the skink keyword, so it’s good on terradons, Stegadons, Salamanders… even if it works only in the first turn, it’s exceptionally powerful, as it will force your opponent to set-up in a defensive position, thus leaving you more room to move and grab key points with LoSaT on lesser units (be them objectives or particular terrains). let’s see:
    Terradons? with move 19” (and further buffs) it’s trivial to land the deadly cargo by turn 1
    salamanders? buff them with a priest and hunter’s steed: threat a 30” range hitting on 2+
    40 Skinks buffed by a starpriest venom, a priest and hunter’s steed: threat a 34” range!

    the Command Ability will put fear into your opponent, especially when that big blob of skinks has been buffed by serpent staff: no one is going to charge your front rank of skinks without thinking twice… your opponent will almost always try to deal with them with shooting (and it’s not that hard to have them save on a 3+) or something else, thus forcing him to adapt his play to your will.
     
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    TIPS & TACTICS – COALESCED


    Premise: as already said for Starborne, this will just be a friendly intro, not a specific guide on all the possible tactics and strategies. I’m going to give you just some hint on what you should look when building a Coalesced army and planning a tactic: it’s up to you the task to discover the possibilities granted by Coalesced, coming up with synergies and builds that here are not mentioned.


    Coalesced is an army that relies on:
    - physical brawl. the general abilities of coalesced buffs toughness and number of attacks of many of your units.
    - aggressive play

    Coalesced weakness:
    - no LoSaT or deep strike
    - low bravery and a rule that doesn’t let you use the buffs granted by numbers when fielding hordes

    Coalesced is a fun army, that doesn’t require much thinking: advance, use flyers and shooting to kill support heroes, buff your main troops and smash.



    Coalesced Units

    If we look at the bonuses granted by Starborne and Coalesced, it’s pretty clear that some units, while being always a good pick, work better in a certain kind of army.

    Coalesced LOVE:

    Saurus knights
    One of the most buffed unit, as predatory fighters ability gives them TWO additional attacks for each model. They excel in Koatl’s Claw (with the +1 on to hit) and are an excellent target for the Hand of Glory spell, Serpent’s staff and Scarvet Command Ability.

    Saurus warriors:
    When played in horde, for them are valid the same consideraztions already said for the Knihgts: only one additional attack, but quantity has a quality of its own.

    Skink Starpriest

    the majority of coalesced armies will rely of a massive number of attacks. The Serpent’s staff is one of the most useful ability we can count on. Plus, the Starpriest grants a spell which is always nice.

    Big Dinosaurs
    Dinos are often a target for multiwounds attack, and scaly skin help them staying alive; that said:
    Carnosaurs just love Coalasced, for the additional jaw attack… and they work greatly both in Koatl’s Claw (+1 to hit on charge) and Thunder Lizard (additional wounds).
    Bastiladons with solar beam are made for Thunder lizard and double shooting.
    EotG: it’s the only way coalesced have to summon reinforcements to the battlefield, which is nice. Plus, the saurus warriors are buffed by coalesced predatory fighters.

    As a general suggestion, any Starborne army should always include no less than 2-3 of these units.

    OTHER notable UNITS

    Slann / Lord Kroak:
    I would never leave home without one of these, as they are amazingly strong and also our main source for bound endless spells, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see all-sauri lists without our beloved frogs.

    Salamanders
    Salamanders are a great unit and coalesced salamanders are truly scary also in melee.
    Remember that they have only bravery 5 and so, while handlers work as ablative wounds, they trigger losses by battleshock tests. If you run a full block, be sure to have CPs to avoid battleshock, otherwise you could run minimum sized units (single sallies).

    Kroxigors
    A solid unit to be fielded in a thunderquake battalion, where each Kroxy will be able to deal 8 attacks.

    Ripperdactyls riders
    I’m listing them only because many players own them in numbers.
    RR is a poor unit, but at least they gain the additional attack, and with the support of a single CP each of them delivers 5 yaws attacks, so a 160 pts unit does 30+7 attacks. Nothing impressive but I suppose is something?

    Skinks
    if you plan coalesced shadowstrike, a 40 skink horde is really strong.

    Chameleon skinks
    all in all a weak unit, but they give Coalesced the only way to deep strike a unit, so 90 pts for the chance to grab a distant objective could be worth the price.

    Dread Saurian
    In Thunderlizard you have a 37 wounds monster with scaly skin and additional jaw attack. just throw it in the middle of the enemy and force your opponent to deal with your king of distraction carnifex.



    Koatl’s Claw

    KC comes with 2 very strong abilities:
    Savagery incarnate: +1 to hit rolls for saurus after a charge
    Additional command ability : triggers Savagery incarnate even if the sauri didn’t charged.

    It’s pretty clear that a DT list is made to swarm the battlefield with saurus warriors / knights / heroes, and do it in a pretty brutal way.

    1 - Common builds will include a solid core of Sunclaw or Firelance Battalion, with saurus blocks supported by heroes, often mounted on carnosaurs. Buff your hordes with skink starpriest (Hand of Glory + Serpent’s staff), the command ability of a Sunblood / Oldblood and possibly also a ScarVet, and drown the enemy under loads of dices and MWs. Give the mandatory sub-faction’s artefact to the Sunblood or the ScarVet.

    2 - The downside is that your nice block of warriors is painfully slow (a problem that knights don’t have), so you will be easily the target of charges / shooting… to soften it, an alternative is to focus on defensive design: babysit your horde with a Slann and possibly a Starseer, to have a horde with save 2+/3+ rerolling 1s, then slap an Astrolith bearer for FNP 6+ and raise the dead with emerald swarm.

    3 – an alternative KC can employ the Shadowstrike: not because the units of said battalions gain something (they don’t), but if you want an additional artefact, some flyer, a block of poisoned shooting skinks with +1 to hit and maybe a unit of chama skinks able to deepstrike… that’s pretty good.


    Thunder Lizard

    Last but least, the subfaction for our dinosaurs!
    Beast of war: add 2 to the wounds of each behemoth.
    additional Command ability: shoot twice with a Bastiladon or activate twice the EotG.
    Command trait: add 1 attack to the general’s mount’s weapons (all of them, so the more the better)

    Of course TL is designed to field big dinosaurs (Stegadons are even battleline!) and to have a general with a behemoth as mount… Don’t even think to play a TL list with less than 2-3 dinosaurs.
    This is the sub-faction that lets you play Stegageddon, but leaving aside such funny but impractical list, it’s pretty obvious that Thunderquake battalion is one of the best choices for TL, but it’s not the only way to go.
    keep in mind that the mandatory artefact of the TL subfaction is suboptimal at best, so you want at least a battalion to pick the nice ones. Let’s see how you can play it.

    1 – Thunderquake: pick a Stegadon chief (highly offensive) or EotG (defensive) and then choose any combination between bastiladon / stegadon for the other 2 beasts, complete it with a Slann and some kroxigors ( salamanders, then keep at hand something to buff / protect / raise your walking castle of doom (burning head / astrolith bearer, emerald lifeswarm). fill the rest of the army with mobile units.

    2 – Sunclaw battalion. pick an Oldblood / ScarVet as general: congratulations, you have a 14 wounds carnosaur with 3 forelimbs and 5 jaws attacks, hitting respectively on 2+/3+. Stuck on it a nice artefact (for example a thermalrider cloack for a move 14” flying) and you’ll hit like a ton of bricks.
    Then support you block of saurus warriors with some buffed shooting (laserdons or similar) or field a Dread Saurian for maximum carnage

    3 – weird experiments are possible: for example, concentrate on multiple EotG and go for a summoning warriors route.




    All in all, we can say that all Coalesced armies favor a brutal and aggressive playstyle, being able to deliver massive blows, with an unparalled violence if confronted to Starborne (or old seraphon, for what matters). Ideally, you force the enemy to defend from you.
    However, you must still be careful, as coalesced armies are “slow” (you lack teleports and deep strikes), so you must keep at hand some fast unit to be able to don’t lose battlefield control.
    Coalesced armies (as also Starborne ones for what matters, but they can mitigate the issue somehow), are also hungry for CPs and need multiple heroes in key roles to work properly. For example, in a KC list you could want a Slann, a skink Starpriest, a Starseer, a oldblood, a ScarVet, an astrolith bearer… these are already 6 heroes, and with a couple of Endless spells they are gonna eat half of your army points.
    You will be forced to take hard choices, because you cannot have everything and, even then, a certain amount of your key heroes will be single squishy models, favorite target by enemy’s “snipers”. Given that we are an army that works on synergies, the loss of a couple of irreplaceable heroes could mean the crumbling of our tactics.
     
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    POWERFUL BUILDS & TRICKS

    Ok, this won’t be a real “tutorial”, but I think that I could some suggestion on how to exploit single models or a block of a certain unit, to have a strong centerpiece for your army. Nothing new for the members of this community but still helpful for beginners that would like to field something that hurts.
    I won’t do theme-based lists (this is @LizardWizard’s job), but I will also give some suggestion on units’ choice to develop a particular tactic.
    At the same time, I will also give some hint on tricks (and mind tricks) you could employ to surprise the unwary opponent.
    As always, I’m not going to cover all the bases, you are free to experiment, do some mathammer and discover by yourself the various possibilities.

    This is a post that can and will see continuous adds-on, as we will discover new cool things.

    up til now we have:
    stegadon
    carnosaur
    kroxigor
    terradons
    skinks
    saurus knights
    Starborne sallies
    slann / kroak
    suggestions to keep your dudes alive
    suggestions about Realmshaper Engine



    The Horned King: Stegadon Chief

    This is the most powerful single build available to stegadon (and probably to seraphon)
    Basic stegadon got (at full profile):
    10 wounds, move 8, save 4+
    missile weapons: you can choose between skystreak bow (24” – 3 attacks 3+ /3+ / -1 /3dmg) or Sunfire throwers (1 attack / roll a dice for models in a target unit within 8”, deal MWs on each 5+)
    basically, long ranged or anti melee
    Melee weapons: 4 different weapons, ALL hitting on 3+/3+/rend -1: 3 meteoric warspear (branded by the chief, 1dmg), 2 massive horns (4 dmg), 2 jaws (2 dmg), 5 crushing stomps (2 dmg). a grand total of 12 meee attacks.
    a very respectable statline.
    1st step - use the Coalesced faction:+1 attack to jaws weapon: you go to 13 melee attacks.
    2nd step - pick thunder lizard subfaction and make the stegadon chief your general with 12 wounds: tnx to the command trait you gain +1 attacks to ALL the weapons of the mount (crew is counted as mount); so:
    shooting: 5 javelins by skinks and then 4 Bow or 2 dices rolling for the sunfire thrower (the profile of ST is “attacks = 1; so it turns into “attacks = 2).
    melee: Having 4 melee weapons, 3 of them of the mount, you gain 3 attacks for a updated total of 16 Attacks
    3rd step – use a thunderquake battalion. Use the savage profile, add 1 to the number of attacks of each melee weapon (4). The updated total of your melee attacks is now 20.
    4th step: start of hero phase: select the Great Drake Another +1 attacks to all hero weapons: The updated total of you melee attacks is now 24.
    5th step: use your command ability on yourself and add 1 attacks to each melee weapon... The final total is 28 melee attacks: 6 warspear +6 horns +7 jaws +9 stomps
    6th step: give your general a cool artefact (for example, Cloak of feathers: -1 to be hit, +4 to move and fly).
    There, this is an auto-sufficient build, and it can be improved with a minimal support.
    For example, give to it a Sacred Stegadon’s helm for save 3+, stick near it a single puny skink priest and now your stegadon can have save 2+, can run, shoot and charge and all his attacks now hit at 2+.


    The Jaws King: Hero on Carnosaur

    Too many variables here. I will try to examine some of the ones that (IMO) are the most effective (and less reliant on external support – I will basically consider only a Starseer, but a Sunblood is great for a carno).
    The carnosaur at its full profile got:
    2 forelimbs: 3+ / 3+ / - / 2 dmg
    3 jaws: 4+ / 3+ / -1 / 5 dmg (these are the big damages you’re looking for). the 4+ to hit becomes a 3+ when targeting models with 7 or less wounds characteristic.
    the heroes got:
    ScarVet: 6 attacks 3+ / 3+ / - / 1 dmg
    Oldblood: 3 attacks: 3+ / 3+ / -1 / 3 dmg. on each 6s to hit it doubles the hits.
    IMO some heroes works better in some subfaction then in different ones.

    Starborne, Dracothion’s tail.
    Place in reserve an Oldblood with Godbeast pendant.
    Set the Sacred asterism on Great Drake, use a Starseer to give a -1 to saves to the target unit (for the sake of simplicity, from now on i will treat the -1 to save as the equivalent of an additional -1 rend), call from reserve the Oldblood and place it within the range of the Starseer’s Staff. Your fav. target will be an elite or something with wounds characteristic equal or less than 7.
    Charge 3d6 with the carnosaur and activate its command ability for a +1 to hit.
    Now you ALL your attacks hit on 2+: 4 spears (rend -2, doubling the attacks for each nat. 6); 3 forelimbs (rend -1), 4 jaws (rend -2), dealing multiple damage with all of them. and when the enemy will kill your oldblood, on a 4+ it comes back at full health.
    (side note: it's not mandatory but if you have a Sunblood at hand, LoSaT the guy and have your oldblod wound with everything at 2+)

    Coalesced, Koatl’s Claw.
    ScarVet, with the Eviscerating blade artefact.
    Set the Sacred asterism on Great Drake, use the Starseer as described above.
    Charge and activate its command ability to double the hits on each nat. 6.
    tnx to KC savagery incarnate you gain a +1 to hit, so now you have:
    7 spear (rend -1) that on each 6 deal 2 MWs
    3 forelimbs (rend -1)
    5 jaws (rend -2)
    ALL your attacks hit on 2+, and each nat. 6s will generate 2 hits.
    If you can give the Eviscerating blade to another hero (Sunblood), then give the ScarVet a Rune Blade and those 7 spear attacks will have rend -4. As already said, at that point use also the command ability of the Sunblood to wound at 2+ with everything.

    Coalesced, Thunderlizard.
    Oldblood with command trait Prime Warbeast for +1 attacks; give it something to help keep it alive (Gryph feather charm).
    Set the Sacred asterism on Great Drake, use the starseer as described above.
    Charge and activate the command ability for a +1 to hit.
    Now you ALL your multiple-damage attacks hit on 2+:
    5 spears (rend -2, doubling the attacks for each nat. 6);
    4 forelimbs (rend -1),
    6 jaws (rend -2)


    The Kroxigor Avalanche

    This is related to the Horned King, as it gives its best with a similar set-up.
    Kroxigors are heavy hitters. save 4+, 4 wounds, move 8”, they are sufficiently though and fast; each one got 4 Maul attacks and yaws attacks, all of them with rend -1, hitting at 4+ (3+ if nearby a skink unit).
    The maul deals 2 dmg, the jaws 1 dmg (with additional MWs for each nat. 6+ on HIT rolls)
    For the sake of simplicity I will consider only the maul, but each unit should have also at least a moonhammer:
    simplest build: 6 kroxi, 1 Skink Starpriest (360 pts).
    1st step - use the Coalesced faction:+1 attack to jaws weapon.
    2nd step - use a thunderquake battalion. Use the savage profile, add 1 to the number of attacks of each melee weapon (2). The total of melee attacks for each kroxigor is now 8: 5 maul + 3 jaws. 30 + 18 for the whole unit.
    3rd step – have your Starpriest babysit them, to give them +1 to hit, serpent’s staff and magical support (for example: the endless spell Burning Head).
    now your unit will have:
    30 maul attacks hitting on 3+, rerolling 1s, dealing 2 dmg for each unsaved successful hit
    18 jaws attacks, hitting on 3+
    plus an average of 9-10 additional MWs.


    The Lustrian Bombers

    9 terradons + 1 terradon chief (360 pts) + 1 / 2 additional heroes
    the idea is to reliably deliver your deadly cargo on the intended target, rolling 9 dices and dealing d3 mortal wounds for each 2+; 9 terradons will deal on average 7-8 d3 (around 15 MWs), plus the rest of the attacks.
    Terradon got move 16” and (other than the deadly cargo) each one got also d6 attacks with the sunleech bolas and 4 attacks with the razor jaws.
    Starborne Fang of Sotek gives them +3” in the first turn, Coalesced gives them additional jaws attaks.
    A skink priest makes them run and shoot / charge, and +1 to hit, a starseer could make them charge 3d6. But let’s consider the priest.
    use hunter’s steed (+1 to run and charge), skink priest and a CP to have them run 6” and suddenly you have:
    move 16” (or 19”) +7” for the increased run.
    Shoot with the sunleech bolas (average 31/32 attacks, hitting at 3+).
    Charge 2d6+1” (total average 31”/34”!).
    Deliver the cargo and enter melee (36 / 45 melee attacks hitting on 3+).
    Sounds good, right?
    Now, imagine you are also using a skink starpriest and the serpent’s staff: all your attacks now deal MWs for each nat. 6S to wound. The number of shooting + melee attacks is on average 62 / 71, hitting on 3+; on average, it means 7 / 9 mortal wounds, for a grand total (including the deadly cargo) of 22-24 MWs, plus the normal damage.


    The Poisoned Skinks Cloud

    40 Skinks + 1 skink Starpriest + 1 Skink priest (240 + 190 pts)
    40-skinks unit (with boltspitters to hit at 16” and shield) will do 80 attacks: the priest will take them to a respectable 4+ save and “to hit 4+”; nat. 6s to wound will deal MWs tnx to the Starpriest and cast Hands of Glory to reroll 1s.
    On average you will roll 47 “to wounds”, delivering 8 MW (plus normal damage).
    Play them as Starborne Fangs of Sotek and the enemy will be terrified by the prospect of charging them, because they will do mortal wounds again AND the charge will fail 50%.
    Play them as Coalesced Shadowstrike battalion and those 80 shots will hit at 3+ (rerolling 1s), for an average of 10-11 MWs.


    Yippee ki-yay! the Saurus Cowboys

    10 knights (200 pts) a ScarVet and a Starpriest
    Each knight in a coalesced Koatl’s claw gains an additional jaws attack (they have 2) and a +1 bonus to hit. That alone lets them do seven attacks each (2 lances at 3+, 2 knight jaws at 4+, 3 CO jaws at 2+), threatening double damage with the lances. A grand total of 71 attacks, rerolling 1s (Hand of Glory from the Starpriest).
    Support them with a Scar-Vet, doubling the attacks on a nat. 6 to hit (14 additional attacks on average).
    And all those attacks will deal MWs on 6s “to wound”… we are talking about more than 10 MWs, plus normal saves (alas, with no rend).


    Now you see me… Starborne salamanders

    A full unit of 4 salamanders is probably one of the best target for LoSaT.
    Make practice and learn how to use them as a rapier that hits lake a claymore.
    pick your target, buff the sallies with hand of glory to reroll 1s, move the sallies at blast range (positioning them outside of serious retaliation). If you have previously buffed also their save with a skink priest, you can also go for a charge.
    In the following round move them on the other side of the battlefield and repeat the process… in the meantime you could provide some other buff: for example, send a Burning Head in the place where you are going to move them, and reroll (again) all 1s to hit.
    Basically buff them, move them, blast & chomp, rinse & repeat. Practice the tactic… sometime it won’t work but more often than not you will obtain solid results and you will force your opponent to play your game.


    The MWs’ Storm - Slann & Kroak

    One of the best tricks available to Seraphon armies is the ability to deal a large amount of MWs tnx to various abilities that interact with the shooting / fight phase (Serpent’s staff on top of them), or simply by the unit itself (hello Salamanders).
    So, it’s sufficiently trivial to build a list focused on dealing MWs… but obviously it needs also the most classic support of MWs source: magic.
    Lord Kroak + Slann + Astrolith bearer: 560 pts. Give the Itxi Grubs artefact to the Slann.
    Lord Kroak and Slann got a +1 to cast, the AB gives additional 6” and another +1, stuck the bonus of Sage’s staff on Kroak for a +3 to cast; use an arcane vassal to increase up to 12” the range of spells (remember that range increases don’t work on endless spell).

    Slann goes first.
    1 - Slann casts celestial equilibrium (Casting 7+, you have a +2). all other seraphon wizards gain a further +1. Now Kroak got a +4.
    2 – The Slann casts Stellar Tempest on an eligible target (let’s say a horde of 30 models = 10 MWs)
    3 – The Slann casts Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (casting 7+ so you need a 5): 2d3 MW and debuffs

    Lord Kroak.
    1,2,3 - cast 3 times Celestial deliverance (range 16” from the vassal) with increasing casting value: 7+, 8+, 9+. You have a +4 to cast it.
    4 – cast comet’s call. with a 4+ you will succeed on a roll of 3+; on a 6+ you will hit d6 targets.
    Lord Kroak alone is going to deal an average of 11-12 d3 MWs

    On average, your 2 dudes can deal around 25-30 MWs in a single round of casting. Sounds pretty good.
    Of course, variations are possible (you may need life-saving spells, or spells as Purple Sun), but you get the idea.


    Hard as a Rock

    You have a melee general and you wanna keep it alive? use artefacts and spells and stack their effect for maximum protection.
    Spells: Control Fate (Starseer: +1 to saves); mystic shield (re-roll 1s on saves), Slann C.A. (+1 saves vs shooting), Blazing starlight (Starpriest: gives to a enemy unit -1 to hit)
    Abilities: Priest staff (+1 to saves, skink only)
    Artefacts: Stegadon helm (+1 saves, skink only), cloak of feathers (-1 to be hit and fly, skink only), Gryph-feather Charm (-1 to be hit)
    as you can see, by combinations of items and spells, it’s trivial to have a hero with saves between 2+/3+ (rerolling 1’s), and with -1/-2 to be hit


    Life always wins

    Wanna play war of attrition? Heal your dudes!
    the Emerald Swarm endless spell is your friend: not only it heals 1d3 but it also raises dead models so it’s extremely useful to increase the durability of your saurus horde.
    The Astrolith Bearer irradiates a 12” bubble of 6+ FNP (feel no pain – ignore wounds / mortal wounds on a 6+).
    EotG: can heal d3 wounds to each seraphon unit within 12”
    Slann spell – celestial apotheosis: heal 1 or d3 wounds
    Starborne Thunderquake: heal up to d3 wounds to battalion’s units.
    To keep hordes alive, favor Emerald lifeswarm and 6+ FNP.
    For big dinosaurs everything’s good, and you could heal 3d3-4d3 wounds to a single model


    Realmshaper Engine - placement tips

    not something you can optimize, but it’s useful to know how you can employ our terrain, given that the rules for its placement are awful.
    first problematic rule: any Realmshaper Engine must be set before any other terrain features are set up, more than 6" from any objectives and more than 6" from the edge of the battlefield.
    second problematic rule: you must garrison the terrain with a seraphon wizard or priest if you want to use its effect.
    third problematic rule: the RE can be garrisoned also by enemy unit (Garrison rule: a unit can be set up as a garrison at the start of a battle if the terrain feature is wholly within the unit’s territory. Alternatively, a unit can garrison a terrain feature instead of making a normal move if all of its models are within 6" of the terrain feature, and there are no enemy models within 3" of the terrain feature or already garrisoning it. this also means that you cannot LoSaT into it)
    fourth problematic rule (as per latest FAQ): a wizard on Balewind Vortex cannot stay in the RE, it’s removed from the garrison and placed at 1” from it.

    Of course, the BIG problem is that, when you place the RE, you don’t know if it will end in your territory or in the opponent’s… with the latter option, not only you are not using it, but you are gifting your opponent a solid base that can be garrisoned and blocks your LoS. This sucks to the point that many players simply don’t bring the RE to the table, even if it comes for free in matched play.
    However, there are some tricks that you can use to place your RE in a way that will let you gain advantages. Let’s see.

    first option: if you play with the official scenery deployment rule for matched play printed in the GHB2019 (You really should), each player chooses a number of terrains (which are divided into primary and secondary ones). The terrains that got a warscroll have the abilities listed on the warscroll; pick Arcane Ruins as one of your primary terrain, as Arcane Ruins come with the arcane rule (+1 to cast and dispel)
    Setup the RE and the Arcane Ruins on opposite deployment zones, forcing your opponent to let you garrison the Realmshape or to concede you a further +1 to cast / dispel. It’s a win-win.

    second option:
    It’s the simplest. The RE must be placed at more than 6" from obj, so it's useless to control them. Place it in a place where it gives no additional benefit at all (for example, units placed behind it to negate LoS won't control obj)… in this way, if it ends in the enemy territory, your opponent simply won't gain any kind of tangible benefit from it.
    Basically: 50% good, 50% nothing happens.

    third option:
    Requires some planning. Place the RE in a useful place, that could be annoying for you if garrisoned by the opponent. If the RE doesn’t end in your territory, it will act as a bait… and you will make the enemy regret the choice of garrisoning it. You just need to have a list ready to exploit the trap.
    Examples: that huge piece of terrain is a great target for spells as Aethervoid Pendulum and every spell that deal those sweet MWs that ignore the +1 to save granted by the garrison (think about Kroak and a triple celestial deliverance).
    Or Place the terrain at the outer limit of a territory. If it ends in the enemy's, set up your terradons at the minimum distance from it (usually 24"), buff the terradons with something as priest and starpriest and drown the garrisoned unit with MWs.
     
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    Skink Priest "prayer" ability (Star-Stone Staff) is +1 to saving throws, not reroll 1s.
     
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    LizardWizard Grand Skink Handler Staff Member

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    I have preemptively liked all your post @Killer Angel, your overviews are always great!
     
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    fixed! tnx.

    :D
     
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    The "terrain" ability for Coalesced is named "Primeval Domain" and not only lets you ignore negative terrain effects in your territory, but also restricts your opponent from gaining positive effects in your territory. Terrain only partially in your territory counts.
     
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    Unfortunately it would seem that scaly skin doesnt work on MW, regardless of their source. MW are not damage.
     
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    Thanks so much for the breakdown so far @Killer Angel, seriously can’t wait for the next lot! Keep up the good work in the name of the old ones! :D
     
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    Some remarks:
    - Starpriest venom is also usefull on elite units, not just on hordes. For example a stegadon has a potential 19 attacks (without buffs) of which approximatly 2/3ths will hit. So about 15 hits that can proc the poison. That is, on average, only 8 fewer hits than an unbuffed unit of 80 skinks. So on average about 1 mortal wound less. Hordes might be the most effective users, but elite units aren't necesarly that far behind. Plus, elite units are sturdier, making it more likely they'l actually get into combat and use the poison before being reduced to half-strength or worse, annihilated.

    - Ripper chief: his command ability affects all rippers including himself within 18", also it stacks (one of our few command abilities that still stacks). This will very quickly add up to a lot of attacks as you'l get 2 per model per use. You can build a list around this as well.

    - EoTG is basicly a healbot that sits on a stegadon. Which will have definitly have uses in lists with many multi-wound stuffs (heroes, behemoths, kroxigor, rippers, terradons). It makes for a very nice support unit, or a frontline skink to use for vassal as it'l be relativly difficult to kill with all the healing. The limit to one engine per turn is kinda bad though...

    Also, for summoning you said you can "avoid" a spellcast, that should be "forgo" or "give up" I guess. Minor detail :p

    yes they are, how would they not be damage?
     

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