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AoS Battletome Battallions

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Khelandros, Nov 7, 2015.

  1. Khelandros
    Cold One

    Khelandros Active Member

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    Sunclaw Starhost
    • 1 Saurus Sunblood
    • 3 units of Saurus Warriors
    • Warriors gain +1 attacks with Jaws
    • Celestite Clubs/Spears become Rend -1. When attacking Chaos Daemons weapons also have a damage characteristic of 2 rather than 1
    Eternal Starhost
    • 1 Saurus Eternity Warden
    • 3 units of Saurus Guard
    • +1 Save for Guard when within 10" of Warden
    • Celestite Polearm Damage increased to D3 for following combat phase if Guard unit does not move/charge that turn
    Firelance Starhost
    • 1 Scar Veteran on Cold One or Carnosaur
    • 3 units of Saurus Knights
    • +3 to Charge rolls for any Knight unit within 10" of their Scar Veteran
    • Deal an extra mortal wound for any wound roll of 6+ on any celestite weapon used in the combat phase following a charge; this rule is cumulative with the lance rule
    Shadowstrike Starhost
    • Rename of Skink Patrol battalion
    • Now lets you choose between Starpriest or Skink Priest
    Thunderquake Starhost
    • Engine of the Gods or Troglodon
    • Two units from the following list: Stegadon, Bastiladon
    • (One unit of Kroxigors) or (One unit of Razordon/Salamander and one unit of handlers)
    • EoTG/Troglodon can either be swift (re-roll failed charge and hit rolls) or savage (re-roll failed wound and save rolls); units from this formation within 8" of EoTG/Troglodon also receive this effect
    • Each model from this formation heals a wound during the hero phase; increased to D3 wounds if model is within 10" of any Slann
    Starbeast Constellation
    • 1 Saurus Oldblood on foot or on Carnosaur
    • 1 Skink Starseer
    • All 5 formations above
    • Bypass battleshock for all units
    • Oldblood can use command ability regardless of whether he is your general; any other hero from this formation can use their command ability as well if they are within 20" of him as well
     
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  2. Des_DS
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    THANK YOU!!!! So looking forward to using the Thunderquake Starhost!
     
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  3. El Caimán
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    Wait....that +1 save for saurus guard. Didn't they already have that ability? If within 8 of a hero

    So that was a mistake or can these guys go +2 save?!
     
  4. Khelandros
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    Book breakdown
    • 31 pages on individual units -- pretty much 8th edition length minus rules per unit
    • 6 pages on color schemes via 2D sketches
    • 14 pages on painted models by 'Eavy Metal
    • 25 pages on battleplans/scenario narrative
    • 39 pages on unit warscrolls + tips/hints from AoS starter
    • 7 pages on battalions
    • 4 pages on the rules
    • rest on content-separating pictures / table of contents / etc.
    Expect full-page or half-page pictures everywhere.
    Format is very much like a National Geographic with tabloid-sized paragraphs
    Lots of blue/purple and blue/red lizards

    Judging by how the current Stormcast/Khorne Bloodbound currently do not have battalion warscrolls, I feel like the battletome is almost a necessity rather than a handy extra. Kinda hoping they put a new pdf with all the units compiled together again.
     
  5. Khelandros
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    This is the new Battallion ability called "Drakescale Shieldwall."
    Guard still have "Sworn Guardians" ability.
     
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  6. Bowser
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    I think I am going to get aome mileage out of that Starbeast constellation! Haha! If anyone will let me play it! If not I will be okay with stomping them unto stardust with the eternal starhost!
     
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  7. little-myth
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    I really want to do the Starbeast Constellation, but one; is the table at the workshop big enough and two; I don't think anyone at the place has a huge amount of models, I think....
     
  8. lastlostboy
    Saurus

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    Awesome. Thanks.
     
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  9. StealthKnightSteg
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    What do you mean by Stormcast/Khorne Bloodbound do not have battalion warscrolls? They do in their Battletome and on purchase in the app (in the battlepack section, Seraphon is in there also)
     
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  10. Xlanax_lot
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    Holy shit this formations are all good! Specially when convined with the sinergies we allready have!

    D3 damage on a 3 atack temple guard model with a 1 up save ( i am thibking you can at least cast a mistic shield )
    I almost feel bad fielding this :)
     
  11. Khelandros
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    I meant for free. Kinda looks like the current battalions for armies without battletomes are stopgaps.
     
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  12. El Caimán
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    so i guess all current hosts or packs etc for all armies will eventually be replaced. Cause some are very close to worthless lol
     
  13. tom ndege
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    I think that's the concept behind the whole thing... Warscrolls for unit are free but if you want more please buy the battletome... Just a way to make money.
     
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  14. Crowsfoot
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    The PDF is still Lizardmen on the GW website but they are no more so it has to be replaced by a Seraphon one.
     
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    I think the purchase from the app is the same as in the battletome but without the extra stuff
     
  16. El Caimán
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    In the app you can buy the whole book too
     
  17. Khelandros
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    Yeah, it is weird now. I do not know whether the old battalions are legal now, and if not, it is kinda weird how they are retconning them. Agree with the whole money-making deal; just think they should have had some freebies even if they were bad ones.
     
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    Coinvidentally already had the requirements for the Eternal Starhost, which is my favourite. Wound up buying another Stegadon so I could use the Thunderquake Starhost. Now holy shit, my two defensive bellends, the TG and the Bastiladon, don't need Mystic Shield to get their 2+ save, meaning I can spend the saved spells on something else. This is awesome!

    Side note as I saw this topic get mentioned briefly, seeing as how the rules for the units are totally free officially and legally, I have no problem with the paywall for the Battalions. It's only fair seeing as we're getting the much more important rules for free.
     
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    Right! It's a way to make money but not really a thing to blame...
     
  20. Khelandros
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    It was mentioned because the old Saurus Host battalion does not exist in the new book and was seemingly replaced by the Sunclaw Starhost and Eternal Starhost. While it is not a huge issue, it would be nice to know whether or not they invalidated the old documents instead of playing rule limbo.
     
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