I'm at a crossroads for what else I should get. The way I normally play is really defensive with Saurus Guard, but to be honest I don't win very much. I was hoping that Kroak would fix that, but I've also been looking at another list that's more offensive with a Carnosaur and Knights. 450 1 Lord Kroak (G) - Spectral Claws 80 1 Skink Priest - Priestly Trappings - Prism 160 1 Astrolith Bearer - Warpick 140 1 Eternity Warden - Mace - Blade of Realities 100 5 Saurus Guard - Polearm 100 5 Saurus Guard - Polearm 100 5 Saurus Guard - Polearm 60 10 Skinks - Javelin/Shield 60 10 Skinks - Javelin/Shield 280 1 Bastiladon - Solar Engine/Javelins 240 1 Stegadon - Bow/Javelins 130 Eternal Starhost 100 Reinforcements - Balewind Vortex 2000/2000 Or 280 1 Carn Oldblood (G) - Spear 140 1 Eternity Warden - Mace 200 1 Skink Starseer - Staff 80 1 Skink Priest - Priestly Trappings 80 1 Skink Priest - Priestly Trappings 300 15 Saurus Guard - Polearm 100 5 Saurus Knights - Blades 100 5 Saurus Knights - Blades 100 5 Saurus Knights - Blades 60 10 Skinks - Javelin/Shield 280 1 Bastiladon - Solar Engine/Javelins 240 1 Stegadon - Bow/Javelins 1960/2000 I heard that Kroak lists were strong with Balewind, so that's my idea for the first list, however it's a really low wound list, so if I got unlucky with rolls or went against mortal wounds I'd be screwed. The second list is nice because Canosaurs look cool and the list has a lot more wounds in general, but I'm not sure if Kroak would be better. So far I have all the models in the above lists except for Kroak, Astrolith bearer, Balewind, Carnosaur, and the Knights. The Kroak list will probably be easier and cheaper for me to get for now (Only need to paint 3 more models), but I'm worried that it won't play as well. Any ideas or suggestions? In time I'll probably eventually get the models I need to be able to play both, but I don't want to buy more models only for me to not use them at all. Thanks!