AoS Kroak vs Canosaur

I'm at a crossroads for what else I should get. The way I normally play is really defensive with Saurus Guard, but to be honest I don't win very much. I was hoping that Kroak would fix that, but I've also been looking at another list that's more offensive with a Carnosaur and Knights.

450 1 Lord Kroak (G) - Spectral Claws
80 1 Skink Priest - Priestly Trappings - Prism
160 1 Astrolith Bearer - Warpick
140 1 Eternity Warden - Mace - Blade of Realities
100 5 Saurus Guard - Polearm
100 5 Saurus Guard - Polearm
100 5 Saurus Guard - Polearm
60 10 Skinks - Javelin/Shield
60 10 Skinks - Javelin/Shield
280 1 Bastiladon - Solar Engine/Javelins
240 1 Stegadon - Bow/Javelins
130 Eternal Starhost
100 Reinforcements - Balewind Vortex
2000/2000

Or

280 1 Carn Oldblood (G) - Spear
140 1 Eternity Warden - Mace
200 1 Skink Starseer - Staff
80 1 Skink Priest - Priestly Trappings
80 1 Skink Priest - Priestly Trappings
300 15 Saurus Guard - Polearm
100 5 Saurus Knights - Blades
100 5 Saurus Knights - Blades
100 5 Saurus Knights - Blades
60 10 Skinks - Javelin/Shield
280 1 Bastiladon - Solar Engine/Javelins
240 1 Stegadon - Bow/Javelins
1960/2000

I heard that Kroak lists were strong with Balewind, so that's my idea for the first list, however it's a really low wound list, so if I got unlucky with rolls or went against mortal wounds I'd be screwed. The second list is nice because Canosaurs look cool and the list has a lot more wounds in general, but I'm not sure if Kroak would be better.

So far I have all the models in the above lists except for Kroak, Astrolith bearer, Balewind, Carnosaur, and the Knights. The Kroak list will probably be easier and cheaper for me to get for now (Only need to paint 3 more models), but I'm worried that it won't play as well.

Any ideas or suggestions? In time I'll probably eventually get the models I need to be able to play both, but I don't want to buy more models only for me to not use them at all.

Thanks!

 

Kroak is stronger for sure, Saurus Knights really aren't that impressive. In the first list, you would probably be better off with more Saurus Guard in one of the units, i.e. 15+5+5. I don't think the Stegadon adds a whole lot to the list - you don't really need the rend since you have Kroak with insane mortal wound output, and you don't really have any units that can make good use of the Skink Alpha after a teleport. Dropping the Stegadon and adding another 10 Guard leaves you 80 points which you could spend on another Skink Priest to make those save rerolls all that more likely.

Good luck!

 

The Kroak list sounds like the way to go - if your motivation is to win more, I don't think knights are a good solution. They really need to be in a battalion to pack a punch. On the other hand, Kroak with +2 to casting rolls sounds like a fun way to ruin somebody's day.

 

Or a mighty razordon ! ( and judging by the results of their showing so far.. really mighty indeed ! )

 

Okay great thanks for the advice. I'll go for the Kroak list for now, and also look into getting more Guard for the battalion.