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AoS Lord kroak

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Dylanmaunder, Apr 17, 2017.

  1. Dylanmaunder
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    Dylanmaunder New Member

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    iv not got the General's handbook so i don't know his costs. but seems to me kroak is not exactly a right off because he actually seems like a good melee character. And a punching bag because hes stupidly hard to kill. i forsee him used much like a wrath knight a terror weapon used to attract fire from your more squishy elder.
     
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    He's too expensive for pretty much every list. If you're playing a 2500 point list he might have a place, otherwise he's sadly over costed.
     
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  3. Dylanmaunder
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    yeah i don't have a GH i use the stores and im not buying if it GH 2.0 is comes out soon
     
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    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    540 pts.
    And no, there's no way you can justify such a cost.
     
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    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    If you want a killing machine go Dread Saurian at 400 points it is well priced for what it does, I would love to get Kroak in my lists but he is too expensive.
     
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  6. I love dinosaurs
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    But being a 4 spell casting wizard that is hard to kill I think he is amazing but can't find in 2000 points or lower to fit him in
     
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  7. Dylanmaunder
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    Holly Jesus.... so if you damage a unit you can use the glyph of hunger to heal D3. it mentioned one of more so if you damage another in the same turn you maybe able to heal another D3.
     
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  8. Bowser
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    Yeah, until the GH2 comes out, and possibly even after the dread saurian is far more worthwhile than Kroak.
     
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  9. Dylanmaunder
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    Well look
    looking at a dodgy photo a thunder tusk one of the more scary units costs 320 points how ever i think this thing could make this thing run away. im not a 100% sure how battle shock but i think you lose bravery for taking wounds. so a standard is -1 the dread's -2 so hes down to bravery 4 if he takes 4 wounds he probably going to run away right?. the cananosur blood roar may also have a effect on a thunder tusk.
     
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    Single model won't run on battleshock.
     
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    so bravery 7 on a thunder tusk is meaningless as it a single model and wont take battle shock?
     
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    It affects ability to use some terrain and other abilities. But single model units don't suffer ill effects of battleshock.
     
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    There are also effects and attacks that target bravery.
     
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    Could be worse, back in 6th edition he was 1000 points. :oldman:
     
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    It was the rule of 1 that really gimped him. He is pretty amazing without that.
     
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    I would say it is the Rule of One and the summoning nerf.
    Before that he could spam summons and/or comets.
     
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    The summoning nerf hurt us a lot... Thematically it doesn't make much sense, but I can see how it would balance-wise.

    They really need to just go back to the drawing board on the whole mechanic and start again with it, there's definitely ways it can work for certain armies without becoming an overpowered spam fest.
     
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    My way works brilliantly <insert shameless selfpromotion> :D
     
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Problem is that I can't pursuade my friend to try it. He keeps insisting that Seraphon are too strong (his words: cheesy, imba, OP) as they are now so everything making them stronger is a no-go at the moment.
     
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    What does he play Orruk?
     
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