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Discussion in 'Personal Paint Logs' started by StealthKnightSteg, Jun 2, 2014.

  1. StealthKnightSteg
    Razordon

    StealthKnightSteg Well-Known Member

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    Haven't really run any Lizardmen list, but if I play my Seraphon I'll make a short battle report for sure.
    Mordheim warband is:
    Skink Priest
    2 Skink Crest
    1 Saurus hero thing (forgot name)
    2 (max4) Saurus warriors
    unlimited skinks (till max warband size) I think I have 6 now in my warband. And one ascended to a hero
     
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  2. Jorgik
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    What do you men by Skink crest?, also what would you recommend to play mordheim with lizardmen? I don´t know if I should go many and not a lot of equipment or a few and lots of equipment, or maybe something in between?
     
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    Razordon

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    Alright there is some genuine interest in this! Very good! So let me elaborate on this a bit. I was new also last year on the Eurobash (organized by the Warhammer-Empire forum) so take this with a grain of salt :p

    First negative on a Lizardmen warband is the amount of Hero's these are your money makers between games so you need literally all of them and hope some henchmen will ascent soon. So starting with 500 gold
    First you will need a Skink Priest he is your leader (-60 gold)
    -- Second down fall, IF your priest dies you NEED to re-buy him and play 1 game without a leader.. (wait WUT!), so what ever you do DON'T let him need to roll on the injury table.
    So next you can have one Saurus Totem Warrior he is your pinch hitter (-60 gold)
    Then 2 Skink Great Crests as your last 2 hero's you can start with (2x 30=60 gold)

    So there you have it.. 3 characters that are actually pretty squishy and one hitter.. no biggy right we will just fill out with hitting henchmen.
    Well here we go again..
    Special rule: Saurus Rarity: Can never include more Saurus Braves then there are Skink Braves. and there is a cap of 4 on the Saurus Braves as well
    So you might want 4 Saurus Braves (40 gold per one) but then you NEED atleast 4 Skink Braves as well (20 gold per one)

    Hero's 500-180= 320 left.
    4 Saurus = 160 + 4 Skink = 80 leaving 80 gold to some other thing with (gear which will cost you also, so no option to really go full out yet)
    Or should you go for the really hard hitting Kroxigor of which you can have 1 of. Well take out your purse then.. that's a -200 gold leaving 120 to buy a Saurus and a Skink leaving about 60 gold for gear.. that is a very small warband there. and losing that Kroxigor will hurt you and he is LARGE so he can be picked out by shooters and as a Henchmen has a bigger chance to DIE on the Injury table.

    So taking all this into account I came up with a warband tactic of harassment. Using your big amount of shooting (skinks are low cost and average shooters but you can field lots) and using your power hitters as a sort of body guard. So my gear would also need to be looked at that way, so lots of bows.

    Start list (not yet knowing how important it was to start with full hero load):
    Skink Priest - Bone Helmet, Shield, Sword, Short Bow (90)
    Saurus Totem Warrior - Axe, Shield (70)
    Skink Great Crest - Axe, Shield (40)
    3 Skink Braves (group1) with Short Bows (75)
    3 Saurus Braves (group 2) Axe and Shield (150)
    3 Skink Braves (group3) Short Bows (75)
    =500

    List I ended up with after 5 games and a free for all (4 player) having som luck in getting light armour (you also pay top price for that but luckily you have scaly skin and with cheap shields gives you a decent save):
    Skink Priest - Dagger, Short Bow, Bone Helmet, Shield
    Saurus Totem Warrior - Spear, Light armour, shield
    Skink Great Crest - Axe, Short Bow, Shield
    Skink Great Crest - Spear, Short Bow, Shield
    Skink Brave (ascended) - Dagger, Short Bow, Shield
    Saurus Brave (ascended) - Axe, Light Armour, Shield

    Henchmen group1: 1 Skink Braves - Dagger, Short Bow
    Henchmen group2: 1 Saurus Braves - Axe, Shield
    Henchmen group3: 3 Skink Braves - no equipment (Daggers)

    After my experience I made this new list though it has been a while since I looked at this and just skimming this I'm not sure if this is good. As Mark of the Old Ones can only be bought at making your warband..(change a failed dice roll in a successful one once per battle) I took this one for sacrificing some bodies.

    Skink Priest - Mark of the Old One, Short Bow, Shield (120)
    Saurus Totem Warrior - Mark of the Old One, Spear, Shield (125)
    Skink Great Crest - Short Bow (35)
    Skink Great Crest - Short Bow (35)

    2 Saurus Braves - Spear Shield (110)
    3 Skink Braves - Short Bow (75)
    =500

    Most equipment that is auxiliary like melee weapons on your Crests can be bought pretty soon anyway so keep it cheap and just for initial protection. Also count on losses for your skink braves with WS2, T2 and W1 in combat they go down fast!

    I would like to have a Kroxigor but on his own he would be a gold sink.. so just need to keep hoping on a jackpot somehow to buy him later when you don't have to replace much of your skink braves.
     
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  4. Jorgik
    Carnasaur

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    Where did you get your rules? I think we have different sets.
    In mine your hero allowances are: the skink priest, which costs 35 gold, a revered guardian (saurus leader) costs 90 and must obligatory be the leader and up to two temple guard that cost 60 each.
    Yep, definitely we play with different rules. But thanks any ways!
     
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    Razordon

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    I got them here:
    https://docs.google.com/folderview?id=0B18J5DU-6cP_aEg2dHIxbGpaMlk&usp=drive_web
    In Warbands - Unofficial
    In Experimental there is also a version with 1 Priest & 4 Totem Warriors & Slann + Braves

    Also here a nice guide http://boringmordheimforum.forumier...n-warband-starting-roster?highlight=lizardmen
    with some mistakes in them so read the comments also.

    Now my question is where did you get yours? :)
     
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    I love this folder, I have almost everything in it saved as a backup on my computer (also it loads faster that way).

    Great stuff! Now if I ever play a game of Mordheim again I will post my list as well... my list was very similar to yours, maxed characters, as many saurus as I was allowed to take, and tons of little skinks running around shooting at stuff.

    Do you have any specific Mordheim terrain you use during battles/campaigns? There are amazing sets out there (one good example is the Long Island Wargaming group during their Mordheim City Limits Campaign). My long term warhammer dream is to create a Mordheim city, but jungle-Lizardified for Lustria Cities of Gold.
     
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    Razordon

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    I only played Mordheim last year during that event and at home I have a board.. well 3 pieces of MDF board of 2' by 4' making it 6' by 4' with some green carpet stuff nailed on it, the 5th edition starter set tower and shack (the house got destroyed somewhere) and now 1 citadel woods (without the leaves as of yet). I hope to get AoS scenery more, but getting a Mordheim city is an utopia for me... unless I win that Army thing of GW

    Edit gonna watch that youtube series thanks!
     
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    Razordon

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    Razordon

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    So I tried to experiment a bit with my colour scheme that I want to use on my Seraphon. On the pictures it looks a bit more green off camera (used Sotek Green as the main color)

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    upload_2016-4-15_19-47-57.gif

    I didn't like the light blue scheme that GW handles and is featured here:

    So I used the following paint scheme to get it a bit darker and a bit more attuned to green:

    Undercoat

    • Chaos Black

    Basecoats(1)

    • Stegadon Scale Green (Skin) 2x

    • Sotek Green (Skin) 2x (Layerpaint)

    • Macragge Blue (Scales) 2x

    • Calgar Blue (Scales, drybrush) (Layerpaint)
    Shade (1)

    • Coelia Greenshade
    Highlights

    • Sotek Green (Skin)

    • Teclis Blue (Skin) Edge Highlights
    Somehow the Shade of Coelia Greenshade made the model look a bit shiny. So I'm not really sure if this is the latest finish I want.

    The orange band is Jokaero Orange basecoat for Tlixa's Shield Constellation, but still needs to be shaded and highlighted
     
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    ^ try using the YouTube tags with the share link on YouTube. :writing:
     
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    Razordon

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    It has the media= youtube tag.
    ? So either I'm missing the point or something isn't right?
     
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    Slann

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    Never mind, I'm seeing it now.... Weird.... :shifty:
    ... Must be on my end...

    Anyway, nice classic paint on the Saurus,
    Although I was wondering why the orange stripe wasn't glossy ?
     
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    Razordon

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    It hasn't been shaded with the Coelia, will be shaded by Reikland Fleshshade
     
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    Razordon

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    I also think I figured out why the glossy shine is there.. Probably not shaken the (bigger pot) of Coelia right. so the oily substance was more on top and used. Long shake on the pot and doing the other models didn't give such a finish
     
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    Razordon

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    A little side project finished, now back to the Seraphon, but no time this weekend
    [​IMG]

    More on it in my blog
     
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    Slann

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    Brilliant job on this griffin! Looks amazing!
     
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    yep, it looks great!
     
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    Razordon

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    the gryph-hounds boss
    [​IMG]

    Coming month I'll be working on my Seraphon for my Mordheim warband atleast till half may hope they will be done before my trip to the Eurobash
     
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    This guy looks awesome! Your detail work is magnificent!
     
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    Razordon

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    Thank you @Bowser
    Other angles are on my wordpress blog to view
     
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