Was just wondering what people thought was the heyday of Lizardmen as a competitive army, particularly between 6th, 7th, and 8th, as those were the times I was playing. Was also wondering how strong people think Lizardmen are in AoS.
Reports so far Lizardmen are top tier in AOS, but with my limited game play and knowledge and from the few games me and my son have played Ogre Kingdom are hard as nails.
I have to agree, they where at its best when we had the 7th ed book in 8th. They are VERY strong in AoS, there are many good sinergies (temple guard for example) and the ability to summon and brabery 10 is just amayzing
7th edition book, in 8 it was great, but in 7th spear saurus rocked face, multiple EOTG in heroes, overall just a great book, all our core choices that counted were good (thank you 8th ed FAQ on spawnkin units)
Agreed. We were definitely a top tier army at that time. Slann were absolute beasts and could dominate the magic phase!
I think Lizardmen have been quite constantly at the top tier even though most people might not agree. Atleast outside of this forum. Although I can only remember back to 6th ed. 6th edition slann with all the generations bought was crazy. I think it was ruleswise closest to the fluff that we have had a while. That guy could singlehandedly win games for you when you could mix and match spells from different lores. Also the jaguar saurus was awesome. Then came 7th edition. Things didn't change much in my opinion for Lizardmen. The extra dice were gamebreaking in magic phase. 8th with 7th rulebook. Man those extra dice did all the work now with much more potent spells. Double slann light+death with skrox and cowboys. 8th with 8th rulebook. I think things just stabilized here. The magic was a bit toned down but we kept still being really competitive choice as and army goes. BR Agrem
First there was 5th ed. I never played it but I own the book. Then sixth edition came and we got Ravening Hordes (army rules for everyone that were planned to be superceded by army books). That's when I started playing. I did quite well but I was 13-14 and we were all were newbie as possible. Then the LM got a temporary "army book" in a White Dwarf magazine. That was a serious nerfing over Ravening Hordes. Then we got a 6th edition book that made us strong again just about when my friends drifted away from the hobby and I followed suit. I missed seventh edition, but I checked out Temple Pyramid Vault (the old LM forum) for nostaligia. Seemed to be mid tier. Cavalry and large model units with Fear were the kings of seventh. We had one of those two things. Jumped on the boat again with 8th edition via the 7th edition book. We were in the bottom of the top tier running almost entirely on Slann power (extra power dice all the way!). Then the 8th edition book pretty much kept us in the same place though it removed the tendency to have mono-builds somewhat, though we lost ground by standing still because with the exception of the first three or four army books (which got the shaft), most armies got a power upgrade with the new book while we held steady. Then came End Times. I think if you use the magic rules in Khaine we are a top tier army on par with the combined Legion armies though we are pretty much forced to take High Magic Slann. If you use everything but the Khaine magic then we were knocked down to the mid tier. Maybe a lower tier. We didn't get any special characters and we didn't get the gestalt armies like Chaos, Elves, and Undead did. We seem to be a top tier in Age of Sigmar. Assuming you try for some semblance of balance. The armies with access to summoning have an edge over armies that do not. You can field a small starting army with a Slann (or multiple Slann), dictate Sudden Death terms and them make up for your numerical short term by summoning stuff left and right.
I remember playing against them in 4th/5th Ed and they were crazy! Back then a slann could beat most things in combat and were the best spell casters too. And back then you cast spells in your opponents magic phase too. They were a very powerful army back then. I had a break from the game and never played 6th or 7th, and picked it up again in 8th with the 7th ed book. That was more powerful than the 8th book, but I have to say I prefer playing games with the 8th book, with the exeption of LD5 skinks! I think of the editions I've played we were most powerful in 5th
4th + 5th edition Slann were horrible, back then Kroak still had a 3+ ward, all magic items lost their powers against him and he could only be hit on a 6. Mazdamundi had his own unique spells (including the original ruination spell) and had a combined Steg profile with the bony shield rule (on the right dice roll a cannon ball would simply bounce off the stegadon's crest.