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GW News: Battleshock GONE! and more! AoS 4

Discussion in 'General Hobby/Tabletop Chat' started by Cristhian MLR, Jan 23, 2016.

  1. Carnikang
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    Carnikang Well-Known Member

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    Oof.

    I like the angel though. Not a bad start to AoS 3.0
     
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  2. Killer Angel
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    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    Yes, she is.
    Embued with power by sigmar himself
     
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  3. Just A Skink
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    Whereas I like the model, I find the actual feathered wings a little out of place in the rest of the SCE line. I would expect her to have the "wings of light" like some of the other models.
     
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  4. Kilvakar
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    Lore-wise, I'm not liking the current direction. I'll be completely honest. They already did the "Chaos won!" story with the End Times, and now they're saying that Be'lakor's story means that Order is getting screwed over yet again, and the Realms are "a horrible place to be," in their own words. They say that Order is attempting to strike back, but it definitely seems that they're trying to move AoS more to the "grimdark" side of things, probably to appeal to 40k fans and people who didn't like the high fantasy aspects of AoS when it came out. I expect most 3e stories to be more like Be'lakor where Chaos/Death/Destruction usually win and Order either gets curbstomped or only manages to squeeze out pyrrhic victories. This of course means more Seraphon humiliation and defeats. I can only hope that the art of a Slann putting up barriers around all the Realms we saw means that maybe we'll actually have some hand in fixing the problems instead of causing them.

    I like the new Stormcast for the most part. Although it seems weird that they have now another big beatstick model (I'm assuming that's what she is) and yet more infantry options. It seems that most of their army is getting redundant as they have more foot soldier options than pretty much any other army now.

    Kragnos himself is pretty cool, although I think everyone was assuming that he'd be leading his own new faction. Instead, he's just kind of like "hey, I'm here!" and is just a possible inclusion in any Destruction army. Not looking forward to seeing him humiliate Kroak and the Seraphon in his book, though :(

    3e, I have no idea what to expect, other than what we're heard rumors of before. The idea of "core battalions" sounds good from a purely balancing perspective, but I really hope it doesn't mean that all the faction-specific battalions are getting thrown away. Yes, some of them are definitely better than others, but I hate the idea of battalions being reduced to everyone having the same battalions and effects, kind of how they dumbed down the Realms rules and made them essentially useless.

    This "age of the beast" idea being thrown around sounds like it could mean that monsters are going to get better. I hope that means our monsters get some love as well and it's not only Destruction and Chaos that gets the good stuff. If they added the "might makes right" rule to all monsters that would suddenly make them much more attractive for holding objectives and gaining points. Especially since the board sizes are almost certainly getting smaller, I'm guessing they're trying to move away from the shooting meta and make AoS melee-centric like 40k 9e is now. If monsters were able to hold objectives and weren't as vulnerable to being sniped off immediately that would be interesting.

    They also mentioned that they loved the double-turn and wanted to keep it, but also wanted to add even more options for going first or second. He specifically said that the decision would be harder and that going second means you get more command points, so I'm not sure how they're going to be changing how CP are generated. I imagine there's going to be more actions that require CP usage, if charge reactions are indeed coming and there are other new mechanics they're adding that rerquire CP. I'm guessing that's why the Lumineth got so many CP-generating heroes when their army doesn't have much to use CP on currently. They wanted to make sure they had CP generation for all the new CP uses they're adding in 3e.

    Overall rules-wise I'm predicting a 40k-style shift to smaller board sizes, melee becoming better than shooting due to turn 1 charges being a lot easier for most armies, and CP generation and spending being more important. I'm sure that teleporting will still be a good thing to have, but with smaller boards it won't be the main thing that sets the top-tier armies apart from the rest. I also think they're attempting to somewhat balance out the double-turn mechanic so that it doesn't always end games by turn 2 or 3 by giving new and different options to players based on whether they go first or second in a round. I think games might actually take longer, though, since it seems like they're adding in a bunch of rules for new things to do in each phase and options for the opponent to do things in your phase, and vice versa. As a final note, the comment about you having to look at your army in a completely different way makes me think that at least they believe that the new rules are going to drastically shift playstyles. Looking forward to another couple years of theory-crafting and list building, lol!
     
  5. Carnikang
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    TBF, they said that the coming of the Age of Sigmar did not mean Sigmar won and Chaos lost. They specifically said Chaos is still all over and everywhere, whereas the Free Cities of Sigmar, the beacons of light, are far and few between in the sea of Darkness. Things have always been grimdark in AoS. It's just been metal-grimdark. This has been since the Seasons of War event.

    I have not read the rest of what you wrote, no offense, I just saw that and wanted to say something.
     
  6. NIGHTBRINGER
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    NIGHTBRINGER Second Spawning

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    Reminds me of this...
     
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  7. xoid
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    I felt the context that Chaos won was more about the Chaos victory at the end times. That the Realms are a bad place to live because they were created by Chaos's victory and the subsequent destruction of the Old World.
     
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  8. WildColonial Boy
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    AoS 4e. The Chaos realms have destroyed all the realms leaving only 1 with primitive fantasy =TOW fantasy. Back to characterful orcs with little armour, elves that don't look like cows, humans in clothing and not space marine armour, Seraphon that are really lizardmen, dwarfs that live underground in the mountains, and evil ones in the northern plains.....
     
  9. NIGHTBRINGER
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    you-know-whos-awesome-read-the-first-word.jpg
     
  10. Lizards of Renown
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    Lizards of Renown Herald of Creation

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    +1 to you @WildColonial Boy

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  11. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
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    Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl Eleventh Spawning

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    Perfect - Fantasy starts all over again!

    I wish I could like your post at least twice...
     
  12. WildColonial Boy
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    .....and just to be different.......

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  13. Lizards of Renown
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    Lizards of Renown Herald of Creation

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    For once, being square is cool.

    :D
     
  14. NIGHTBRINGER
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    Surely you mean: "It's hip to be square"
     
  15. Cristhian MLR
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    Cristhian MLR Well-Known Member

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    Let's see:
    • Golden armour.
    • At least two different twin-tailed comets
    • Lion shoulderpad.
    • "Celestial" on her title.
    Obviously, she is an orc boy.
     
  16. pendrake
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    Why is a Lion a Siggy hallmark? Now you mention it, I remember seeing it more than once... But why? I remember the tiresome ‘ole double-tailed comet stuff, but not anything about Lions...

    ...was Siggy a stunt double for Herakles early in their careers?
     
  17. Cristhian MLR
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    Cristhian MLR Well-Known Member

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    Maybe? He is part Herakles, part Zeus, part Odyn, and part Conan I guess.
     
  18. Cristhian MLR
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    Cristhian MLR Well-Known Member

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    Well, remember, this Saturday is pretty much Summerween, or Springween? Winterween for the current southern hemisphere?

    Anyway, that means that we will get the Battletome and Battlelines for the faction, plus generic Vampire Lord, and The Mother of Nightmares (optional assembly as, was that generic Avengorii Vampire Lord?).

    UNIVERSAL RULES:

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    SUBFACTIONS (Bloodlines, so fitting):

    LEGION OF NIGHT (Manny's Return), can take Vargheist as Battlelines:

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    LEGION OF BLOOD (Neffy's servants): they have Black Knights as Battleline.

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    KASTELAI DYNASTY: Lead by Prince Vhordrai, Fist of Nagash, better know as a regular ass Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon that got a name and dramatis personae back in a Death Battletome or GHB that came from pretty much nowhere. They use PLASTIC BLOOD KNIGHTS as Battleline.

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    AVENGORII DYNASTY (The Mother of Nightmare's one): The Behemoth flavour one; battleline Terrorgheists and Zombie Dragons.

    YRKOS DYNASTY (The good bois and gurls one): Vampire werewolves.

    If you want to know more, plenty of the rules have been already leaked >here<.
     
  19. Cristhian MLR
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    Cristhian MLR Well-Known Member

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    Well, would you look at that? next week we are having lots of stuff for everyone:

    Age of Sigmar:

    Let's Start Collecting! Soulblight Gravelords (trademark friendly name for GW Vampire!) already will get their own, having the new mounted Wight King as an exclusive for a while. It's funny that they didn't added the new Skellies instead, but considering that everything in the box besides the Wight King is old, it shouldn't be a surprise.

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    The rest of the range will also appear: Belladamma Volga, the precious Dire Wolves, and Radukar, both in his Beast form, Wolf form and his court: that's right, the truly Cursed City antagonists, are back as GW webstore exclusives, and at extreme prices. This is truly pro gamer move.

    Oh, also the Rat Prince and the other Lady Vampire will arrive, pretty much finishing the expected ReVampires range. As far as it seemed, they will share at least one endless spell with the FEC, and no unique terrain on sight.

    Underworlds:

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    40K:


    Three Combat Patrols and a Codex inbound! alongside some individual releases from previously exclusive miniatures, that's quite a lot:

    First, AdMech is coming in with their new Codex and CP:

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    Alongside cards, dice, all the good stuff.

    Then, overlapping Space Marines versus Necrons; their new CP and releases from previous content found in Nexus Paria:

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    From Nexus Paria we've got Captain with Master-Crafted Heavy Bolt Rifle and Heavy Intercessors and Chronomancer and Flayed Ones.

    And lastly, but not least, Lelith Hesperax is coming on her own kit.

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    Well well, this sure will be quite an exciting week. I for sure was not expecting FOUR starting kits in a single week midway May.
     
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  20. Lord-Marcus
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    Lord-Marcus Sixth Spawning

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    The undead liche lord in me is happy for soulblight. So happy I've preordered some things.

    Don't worry @NIGHTBRINGER , the kings legions still grow.
     
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