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The never-ending battle against woke Hollywood and SJW infused entertainment media [trigger warning]

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  1. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
    Slann

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    Those of us who already know what the Left are up to and are immune to their manipulations don't need to worry, we'll just have to endure the tide of filth and shit until it dies out.

    However it'll be a different story for those who have remained ignorant of this crisis, and those fools who take the Left for their word (read: the majority of my generation and younger). You're right in that it will be painful for some, we'll just have to hope that as many people as possible can wake up and face the reality of identity politics and see it for what it is, before it is too late.
     
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    Scalenex Keeper of the Indexes Staff Member

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    I am less optimistic. There is a thing called the Overton Window and it is always moving left.

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    Based on historical trends in American politics, I believe the so called TERFs are going to join the Republican party. The Republicans are going to pat themselves on the back for defeating the Democrats, but they are going to going to adopt 1990s brand feminism that they once opposed.

    Then in 2050, they are going to adopt contemporary 2020s Leftist politics in order to get the numbers to oppose whatever unthinkable thing in 2050 is threatening to become mainstream at which point it will be normal in 2080, assuming Western civilization doesn't collapse by then.
     
  3. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
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    But in that diagram the 'Overton Window' is moving up and down... :confused:

    Please explain to someone not versed in many complicated psychological theories.
     
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    I guess I pulled it from Wikipedia and they want to avoid offending the Left so they made it talk about "more freedom
    and "less freedom". But usually the Overton window refers to the Left-Right divide.

    That said, I think the Left-Right divide is pretty flawed, I prefer the political triangle between freedom, order, and equity. To get more freedom, you have to give up a little order and equity and so on and so forth.

    The Overton window is way on the equity region of the triangle because the Left values equity above the other two and the Right is split between Libertarians who value freedom, religious conservatives who value equity, and the authoritarian right who values Order.

    In addition to the triangle, there is a quandrant theory with four quandrants where you have a Libertarian Right, Libertarian Left, Authoritarian Left, and Authoritarian Right.

    The further you go left, the more socially liberal you are. The further you go right the more socially conservative you are.

    The further you go down, the more people prefer smaller government, the further you go up, the more people prefer bigger government.

    Of course, another theory is that 50-80% really don't care what kind of government they have and will go along with whatever those in power say. Only a minority of people are willing to fight or sacrifice for what they believe in, and this minority doesn't agree on what goals to fight for or what tactics to fight with, so these people are always duking it out while the masses blindly obey whoever is currently on top of the heap.

    Unless submitting to the government is certain death, then the masses will fight for change, but only when the pain of inaction is greater than the pain of action.

    The problem is the Libertarian Left is so small it barely exists at all so essentially if you plot real human beings political aspirations, it looks like a triangle.
     
  5. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
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    In that case, the one big flaw that American politics, or at least the Republican Party, needs to sort out is to stop the Overton Window moving left, otherwise they become what they swore to destroy.

    I'm unsure on how the Overton Window is currently affecting us in Britain. Mind you, the current Conservative Government is behaving rather like Tony Blair's malevolent New Labour government from the 90s-early 2000s in that it is spending vast amounts of money on pointless rubbish like 'improvements to social care' and HS2 when it could be expanding the Armed Forces to deter Russia/help Ukraine, cracking down on illegal immigration (though I suppose we'll get better at this once we can escape the European Court of Anti-British-Rights), expanding the existing railway network, turning public transport into an essential service so that the workers cannot strike and sorting out the Police Force to ensure more justice is done.

    I'm much more familiar with the Quadrant diagram through exploring political compass memes. I was rather perplexed on taking a political compass test once to find that according to it I was near/centre left (more on the authoritarian side) in alignment, probably due to my hatred of big business and the Ferengi culture it brings, but I honestly see myself as near/centre authoritarian right. I believe a lot of people in modern society are abusing the 'freedoms' they have managed to secure in the past few decades with more and more of them becoming obsessed with short-term sexualised relationships and less and less interest in long-term commitment, and favouring vile, corrupted modernist music, art, architecture and entertainment over the products of more civilised ages. That must be amended.
     
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    One of the favourite techniques employed by the Left to suppress free speech - use buzzwords for 'injustice' to ostracise those who disagree with you from society. Just like Kennedyfilm branded those wo didn't like 'Reeva' racist, when the real complaints were about her crap acting and dumb plot armour.
     
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    Another thing we have learned about the woke tactic, is that you will never be enough woke, and you can be devoured by someone more "inclusive" than you.
    I have no interest in it, but i could play that game too.

    like:
    "Yeah kathleen kennedy, you're so brave with your force is female. Good try, but i've looked at Rey, and you know what i see? a perfect, beautiful woman. Not an ounce of fat, your heroine is agile and athletic. I didn't expect you to be so much into body shaming. You must be really proud of embarassing millions of girls".

    or:
    "Brokeback mountain. i suppose i should praise you for telling the story of a gay love. And nonetheless, you had to tell a men's story, don't you? Because of course lesbians are not entitled to love!"


    ...what do you think, am i good at this game?
     
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    A born natural, my friend, a natural ;)

    It's very funny how we can play their game against them, and could theoretically manipulate them into revealing more and more of the weaknesses and hypocrisies of their ideology by getting them to be 'inclusive' to more and more niche types, alienating others they previously championed and ultimately destabilising their regime from within.

    I would be easy for us to send a spy into their camp to do exactly that. Any volunteers? :p
     
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    Wow... this looks BAD. Spoilers from episode 1...

     
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    To create a sense of balance, i will post a... different review.

     
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    We already knew this was going to be shite from the beginning, so that's no surprise.

    Disappointing, I thought it had potential, but it appears she will be another Reva and steal the show from Cassian. Of course my expectations could be subverted, but I'm not counting on it.
     
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    next step: Gandalfine.
     
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    I like this guy, among things, he is succinct.



    I don't believe Disney can make anything good anymore, at least till 2030 assuming there is some corrective action taken.

    I think Clownfish TV has good insights but they are very much NOT succinct but they did say something insightful.

    Disney can afford to lose money on bad media because half their revenue comes from their theme parks and resorts and these are cash cows.

    I will an addendum that Amazon Prime can afford to lose money because they have the cash cow of Amazon shipping to feed them. I think Jeff Bezo's expected Rings of Power to lose a little money or barely break even and was okay with this. It's like when a town or city hosts a local festival that charges money but they don't charge a lot of money because the town is paying part of the expenses out of civic pride. Technically they are hosted by a city, not a nation and in every case the city spends more money than they receive in extra tourism dollars.
    So I think Bezos was willing eat a small loss, but I don't think he expected Rings of Power to lose lots of money which is what I am predicting will happen.

    Since AT&T divested from Warner Brothers and Warner Brothers merged with Discovery (another media company), they cannot afford to lose money. Note that Warner/Discovery is at least trying to take corrective measures.

    Just a random thought.
     
  19. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
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    Well we know what we can do to change this - stop ordering things on Amazon, and support local retailers instead, either online or, preferably, in the high street.

    My parents and I already boycott buying stuff on Amazon to do our bit to stop our money falling into the hands of that Ferengi Bezos, and every other household who follows suit will take a bit more out of Bezos' pocket. Individually we may be no threat to him, but if everyone rebels against this corporate monstrosity, it will lose its revenue, collapse and die. This will be accelerated if Rings of Power hopefully bombs.

    Disney is more difficult for families with children who want to go to their theme parks, but those families who don't have offspring or have offspring who aren't interested in Disney can do their bit to deny them their money too. Even families with offspring who are smitten with Disney can still do their bit by being firm and taking their children to other equally appealing parks instead.
     
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