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AoS Battleshock and Cold-Blooded

Discussion in 'Rules Help' started by Tilorn91, Mar 19, 2020.

  1. Tilorn91
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    Guys, the cold-blooded rule states clearly on page 55 that we ignore modifiers to bravery both positive and negative, while on page 5 of the core rulebook it says that slain models are a modifier to the bravery roll.

    I know it is probably intended not to work in a broken way together, but it seems pretty clear that we can't have fleeing models almost ever?
     
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  2. Grotpunter
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    You are immune to banners, spells etc. that modifies your Bravery. A battleshock test is something different.

    Your Bravery is 5 - This cant be changed as per above.
    You lost 5 dudes.
    You roll a 1 = You add the amount of dead guys to the dice roll = 6. 1 guy will run from battleshock.
     
  3. Tilorn91
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    Third paragraph of the Battleshock Phase rules directly say it is a modifier though,

    If the modified battleshock roll is
    greater than the unit’s modified
    Bravery characteristic, the
    battleshock test has been failed.

    Edit: I know I'm probably wrong, but I'd like to know how and why more precisely.
     
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    I dont see how that is relevant to a battleshock test. You have 2 numbers and compare them. One cant be modified, the other can still be.
     
  5. Shocksem
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    To battle shock rolls not to bravery. It also means you miss out on the bravery buff for having more than 10 models.
     
  6. Tilorn91
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    Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining!
     
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  7. ILKAIN
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    yeah cold blooded is actually bad for hordes.
     
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    it should just be "you don't take battle shock tests" our lore literally is all about standing to the last man and never retreating.
     
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    Aside from the fluff it's also a fairly meaningless rule. With the exception of some very specific builds it's very rare to have a lot of bravery modifiers anyway for most armies. Which means that against most armies it stops the effect of 1 whole banner or something. Which is just super underwhelming. Hell, mirror matches are probably where you'd get the most use out of it ironically given that we have a fair amount of modifiers...
     

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