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AoS First Seraphon List (New to AOS)

Discussion in 'Seraphon Army Lists' started by Noma, Oct 26, 2020.

  1. Noma
    Jungle Swarm

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    Hello, as the title suggests I am new to AOS and to the new(ish) Seraphon codex. I was a big fan of Lizardmen back when I played in 8th edition, and so coming back it was an obvious choice to pick back up where I left off. Using the models I currently have I am making a 2k list to go against my friends Nurgle army (Sorry I don't know his list), and a possible opposing Seraphon army as well. I was hoping to gain some insight from folks around here about my list. Thoughts, tips, tricks, and general advice are welcome. Thank you!

    Starborne: Dracothion's Tail

    Leaders
    • Lord Kroak: General, Stellar Tempest, Celestial Apotheosis
    • Engine of the Gods: Cloak of Feathers
    • Saurus Astrolith Bearer
    • Skink Starpriest: Hand of Glory
    I love Lord Kroak, the model, the lore, all of it. Using Kroak with all his summoning + magical shenanigan's, and using Celestial Apotheosis to heal up my Engine or Bastilidon seems strong. Engine with Cloak of Feathers to have a flying support beast to heal, shoot, buff Kroxigors, or charge in for some damage. Astrolith Bearer...because(?). Skink Starpriest for extra magical things + buffing.

    Baseline

    • 5x Saurus Guard
    • 20x Saurus Warriors: Spears
    • 10x Skinks: Boltspitters, Daggers, & Bucklers
    I have about 30 Saurus Guard from when they used to protect my Slann way back when (not much has changed), but I'm taking 5 to allocate wounds from Kroak seems worth the points. Not sure how effective spears are on Warriors now, but that's what I have available at this very moment. Skinks seem like a decent screening unit, so I took 1 unit of 10 to do just that.

    Units
    • 3x Salamander Hunting Pack
    • 3x Kroxigor: 1w/ Moonhammer
    Are Salamander's broken?...They seem broken on paper. Wow. I have a unit of 3 Kroxigor's that I proxy converted from way back and I love the way they look. Plus a Moonhammer in a Starborne army seems thematically appropriate. I'll probably escort my Bastilidon or Engine around with these bad boys to get the buff from the skink rule.

    Behemoths
    • Bastilidon: Solar Engine
    So cool! So tanky! Love, love, love.

    Endless Spells
    • Bound Burning Head
    • Bound Geminids of Uhl-Gysh
    Not 100% sure what Endless Spells are best for this army, but from what I've read around on this forum the Geminids are an auto-include for most lists.

    1980/2000 points
     
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  2. NecridHydra
    Temple Guard

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    Kroaq only has one Spell from the Lore list. A Slann with the command trait from Dracothion Tail can have two, but only the generic Slann. Heroes with a name can't have Command Traits or Artifacts.


    EotG is more a meme heroe since the chance of summoning Saurus is a 25% if you have your Slann nearby and doubling attacks is a 0.5% chance. You'll want both, which means you need to move you Slann/Kroaq, Temple Guard and EotG at the same time, which isn't a good idea since you risk a Deep Strike from your enemy (him making a teleport or a deployment of a unit near you, like Lords of Space and Time ability or Appear on Command skills from our book) or a charge from flying units to your Slann/Kroaq.

    Also, whenever you take Dracothion's Tail, Fangs of Sotek, Koatl's Claw or Thunder Lizar keyword, you MUST take the subfaction artifac as your first one. However if you choose not to get a subfaction, you can take any artifact from the list. If you took a keyword and want to take another artifact, you must buy a battalion and their units.

    Looks good. Astrolith Bearer gives you an additional D3 for summoning, 6" extra for Spells and +1 to cast. Starpriest can have Hand of Glory or Celestial Harmony, if you need to pass Battleshock or need to reroll 1s, up to you. Remember that Skinks wizards CAN'T change their spells at the end of your hero phase, like Slanns do.

    I see you lack screens of Skinks, although you could get them by summoning, to avoid double turns or Deep Strikes. Saurus work good with spears as long as they are more than 20. They get an addiotional attack when they're 15+. As 5 models die easily, you better get clubs, unless you summon 20 with your Slann or EotG and make them charge instantly.

    Your Saurus also lack from buffs from a Saurus Hero.

    Sallys are indeed broken, LoSaT them in front of a unit and enjoy the screamings. Before GHB 2020, people used to bring 12 Salamanders. Kroxigors look good in paper but they need proper buffs, like +1 to hit or reroll missed hits. In Starborne, they don't have the extra jaw attack, which can translate in a mortal wound.

    They are awesome models, but I haven't had good results with it. Maybe I had bad luck.

    Buy always a normal Balewind Vortex when you have a Slann/Kroaq: one extra spell to cast and +6" to your spells. In addition to your Astrolith bearer, your Celestial Deliverance has a range of 22". You can measure from you Starpriest and the bonuses still aply.

    I can't talk about the spells you bought because I haven't played them yet.
     
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  3. Noma
    Jungle Swarm

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    Thank you for the suggestions, I have come up with a list using what models I have and hopefully I don't fudge on the rules again.

    Leaders
    • Lord Kroak: Stellar Tempest
    • Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur: General, Mighty Warleader
    • Saurus Astrolith Bearer
    • Skink Starpriest: Hand of Glory, Cloak of Feathers
    Baseline
    • 5x Saurus Guard
    • 30x Saurus Warriors: Spears
    • 10x Skinks: Boltspitters, Daggers, & Bucklers
    • 10x Skinks: Boltspitters, Daggers, & Bucklers
    Units
    • 3x Salamander Hunting Pack
    Behemoths
    • Bastilidon: Solar Engine

    Endless Spells
    • Balewind Vortex
    • Bound Burning Head
    • Bound Geminids of Uhl-Gysh
    2000/2000 points
     
  4. NecridHydra
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    Looks good to me. The only thing you missed is to give the Keywords of Starborne/Coalesced. Since you're running the Cloak of Feathers, you are not longer running with a subfaction.

    Enjoy the game and tell us how it went ;);).
     

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