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The never-ending battle against woke Hollywood and SJW infused entertainment media [trigger warning]

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by NIGHTBRINGER, Oct 14, 2021.

  1. Scalenex
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    I saw an interesting commentary of a guy who really liked Furiosa.

    He said if Hollywood hadn't kill their goodwill with all the DEI girl bosses. Furiosa is a good character who happens to be female. She is a not a Mary Sue or Cringy character.

    Furiosa should be a action heroine everyone could get behind like Ripley or Sarah Conner. But no one saw the movie because no one trusts Hollywood to make good movies or good characters.
     
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    My problem with this movie is not the Furiosa character. In Fury Road i really appreciated her, strong but also fragile, with quirks and not infallible.

    My problem is that is not Mad Max.
    I like that anti-hero character, that finds itself reluctantly involved in other people's affair and problems.
    The setting is a nice and vivid background but nothing too much interesting or complicated that can be developed in a meaningful way outside its main character (as it was for House of Dragons).
    So, even if the movie is a nice piece of action, with no Mad Max i'm very little interested in it. I'll take a look when it will be available on some platform.
     
  3. NIGHTBRINGER
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  4. Scalenex
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    A sign of progress in the culture war. Executives haven't seen the writing on the wall, but some actresses have.

     
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  6. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
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    It's been enjoyable watching the Drinker vent his fury upon the latest Star Wars-flavoured mess to come from Disney+:






    I feel partly guilty for using such great characters as Master Thundering Rhino and particularly Lord Shen to depict two of the modern world's vilest corporate villains, but to make use of the original and superior form of this meme, I will do what I must:
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  7. Scalenex
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    EXPOSED!!!!

     
  8. Karnus
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    Not when a cinema ticket is so expensive, saw this being debated as well. Not many people willing to take a punt when it costs so much, I've heard the film is good.
     
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    That's not a woke problem, this is a rough time economically speaking. Stagflation. That said, during the 1930s we were experiencing the Great Depression and lots of movies were made. They weren't overpriced blockbusters.

    Compounding the problem of ticket prices going up rather quickly is that people are trained to wait for a movie to go on a streaming service now rather than watch it in the theaters.
     
  10. Scalenex
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    I enjoyed Inside Out 2. It was not a masterpiece for the ages but I believe my time and money on it was well spent.

    It was not woke. It wasn't anti-woke either.

    It told a simple but relatable story with good characterization and pacing. If the movie had a flaw, I think it had too many characters. The film added five new emotions but only two of them moved the plot forward. The others were just there for funny one-liners.

    The main story is that Anxiety basically deposed Joy as leader of Riley's brain. And driven by her anxiety, Riley was so desperate to win over a new group of friends that she was an asshole to her old friends.

    Riley had so many friends and would-be friends I didn't learn any of their names or was really able to differentiate them besides the captain of the hockey team.
     
  11. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
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    My problem with Inside Out is that it heavily rips off an old Beezer/Beano comic strip here in the UK called The Numskulls, but that isn't a political problem of course.

    It seems that most recent animated films have largely escaped the clutches of wokeism - there was a lot of good to say about Puss in Boots: The Last Wish for instance (though Dreamworks has always seemed to be able to nearly always nail sequels that were better than the original films they succeeded), and while Kung Fu Panda 4 experienced mixed reception, its issues were down to pacing and a comparatively poorly-thought-out villainess, not pandering to the wokist audience.

    It'll be interesting to see what Shrek 5 and the Donkey standalone film will be like.
     
  12. Scalenex
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    Dreamworks is a good studio, but they aren't so good that I will watch anything with their logo on it. They made a lot of great movies and a fair few stinkers. It is rarely a problem with "wokeness"

    I have to see what reviewers say about these movies before I watch them.

    I'm not particularly optimistic about Shrek 5 or a standalone Donkey movie just because you can only stretch sequels and spinoffs so far.

    I think The Last Wish was awesome, but the other Puss and Boots movies were pretty lousy in my opinion.
     
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    Today is a dark day for Britain.

    With Rishi Sunak's Conservatives ousted by Keir Starmer's Labour, the Left's takeover of the country's institutions is now complete. Jews will no longer be safe to walk the streets, and the country looks set to become a playground for illegal immigrants bringing crime and leeching off the benefits system.

    I certainly wonder if @Scalenex is onto something with regards to stupidity being the ultimate doom of the human race... Starmer is a U-turner with no clear plan to fix the issues that exist in the country today. He is only capable of bleating on about his past life as a lawyer and MP, dodging answers to questions and slinging verbal mud. He still won't entirely verbally relinquish his ties to the neo-Communist Jeremy Corbyn. Rishi utterly destroyed him in televised debates. Starmer's deputy is a unintelligent, foul-mouthed Northern trade union rep with a contemptible past who is fiddling the council house system. Yet the majority choose to blame Sunak for the failings of his predecessors and cabinet staff and vote in an Islamophilic party that is an ally to wokism, headed by an incompetent and hypocritical leader.

    All I can be thankful for is that my local area kept it's Conservative MP and that I at least am not to blame for pointing my great country on its way to ruin.
     
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    I don't watch UK news super closely. I do get a sense that the lack of free speech there is getting worse.

    Often I see stories criminals do horrible things and they arrest the people who complain about the criminals rather than arrest the criminals because the criminals are in a protected demographic.

    I don't know all the details. I don't know if you are past the point of no-return.

    If you think things in the United Kingdom are only going to get worse, do you have the ability to leave? Or can you ride out the chaos in a rural community?

    I live in a small town in the Midwest. I am trying to not be overly concerned about a worst case scenario.

    Most of the stupid politicians in the United States are ruining big cities. I think if a worst case scenario happens in the United States, the cities will fall into chaos as crime gets out of control at the same basic services like public utilities and regular delivery of food and other basic consumer goods falls through.

    If that happens, I'd be okay. The price of food and basic goods is going up fairly quickly but I am a frugal person and my parent's left me a good chunk of diversified investments. Because I live below my means, if high inflation sets in, I'll be okay because I have a big emergency nest egg.

    I probably should have a month's emergency food and water, but I don't plan to make a remote apocalypse bunker to let me let survive indefinitely. If the government collapses and Road Warrior-esque warlords take over, I will probably die. But I've made peace with that.

    I still keep an eye on politics, but I need to remind myself that I have my own life. I don't know about other people, high level politics has very little impact on my personal life.

    Carpenter ants gnawed through a seemingly healthy oak tree. And then a wind storm caused it fall on my house.

    The tree didn't care how the conflicts in Ukraine or Israel are going. The tree didn't care whether Biden is permanently mentally invalid or he just had a bad day during the debates. The tree doesn't care that the price of groceries has doubled in the last three or four years.

    The dead tree has been removed from my roof. I got an emergency patch in the roof to prevent leaking from all the rain. Long term repairs on the roof were completed a week later. The structural damage in my attic is fixed. Insurance mostly paid for the damages and I have enough savings to make up the difference. I just have a hole in the ceiling of my guest bedroom (and I rarely have guests) but I got a handyman I trust who has started work. So it should be done soon. While he's at it, I had my handyman friend fix some plumbing issues that were bugging me.

    Politics has no impact on my short-term problems (literally getting my house in order). I won't get in on my medium and long-term goals but these goals will also not be affected much by who controls the White House and who controls Congress. My goals are more impacted by my internal battle between my ambitions and my laziness.

    I suppose I lived in China where the real estate market is collapsing and rampant corruption has crippled the construction industry, I wouldn't be able to repair my house.
     
  15. CaniusLanium
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    I think major metropolitian areas will be hit the hardest by the crime surge caused by uncontrolled and unvetted mass immigration; they aren't choosing to go to small towns -- most are economic immigrants seeking fortunes in the USA. These people are illegal, that's why they aren't allowed to get a legitimate job, after all. Of course, with the job market the way it is in much of the world, they probably won't be able to get a legitimate job anyway -- companies will want to pay them under-the-table to get around the minimal wage laws, after all.

    I stayed in Iowa for 5 years, in a small town built around a university campus, and I've gotta say it was not the most liberal of places despite it. The faculties were generally liberals and therefore most students were, too; but they are, for the most part, raised under modest means and showed an pragmastic understanding of the realities of life. They are still people, want to be swayed by proganda and emotions -- they did vote Obama, twice, after all. But when they see the food on their plates diminish, they know something is wrong.

    I honest don't think things will go that way, even after I left the states for almost a decade now. Things in the Midwest oughta be calmer, you are not dominated by big cities. The people there lived comfortably there, but they worked for a living -- I've not met a lot of afluent, thrust fund kids who had more money than sense. I just don't see folks there raiding others for supplies, when the rural communities capable of sustaining themselves with a robust agricultural industry. While cities like Chicago, Cleveland, and Detroit might turn into Delta City, RoboCop-style, distant towns should not feel much of the pain, as long as the local officials safeguard their communities from crimes leaking from these centers.

    I'm glad to hear that you got the house situation under control -- wouldn't want to hear anyone living without a roof over their heads.

    The funny thing about housing in China, and I know since my family had just began rennovating a new purchase recently, is that if you are from a middle-class-or-above, it's far better to buy new homes now. Apartment units, studios, or McMansions, there's more value for money in new homes now. The collapse had more to do with an uncontrolled balloning bubble bursting than corruption (though no denying there had been a lot of that, too).
    Unfortunately the market is still not adjusting to the new realities of housing for living, instead of investment, and prices in major cities remain well above the means of the common people. Meanwhile, decorating cost skyracketed due to material shortages due to a sudden surge in demand.
    I've found the interior design and repairs businesses the least impacted, while new constructions and architecs most impacted, from friends working in these fields. Generally, there's probably not going to be many new housing projects in the coming years here, as there's quite a lot of excess supply already. There are problems, but when it comes to investments, the housing issue may well be a crisis for the government, but the common folks are feel the impact of inflation far more keenly. The cities aren't hellholes and there are no roaming gangs on mopads making drive-by robbery, so people are content to weather the storm like they always do.
     
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    Conservatives were in power for 14 years. The failings of his predecessors were his own parties failing, so I don't know if it's necessarily unfair for him to shoulder a bit of the blame. /Shrug

    Either way, I'm sure it'll all be pretty much the same as it is now. That's how these things always seem to go. It's frustrating.
     
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  17. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
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    To a point... certainly the pathetic backstabbing and 'rebellions' can be blamed on the party as a whole, but things like the soap-opera antics of Boris Johnson are much more the failings of specific individuals (and even then there were some incidents that Labour were no stranger to either... Beergate, anyone?). Rishi did manage to take a lot of that out of the Conservatives while he was in power, and seemed generally to be an all-round decent fellow and organised politician after the actions of his two predecessors. He certainly cannot be blamed for Left-allied courts blocking his He also had a clearly-defined plan, which Labour does not. To be honest the one mistake he made really was to call the Election when he did, before the Rwanda plan could really get going (though there were some signs of it working already, look at the barney with Ireland recently as the illegal migrants were starting to flee there)... if he had left it until the Autumn/Winter period to give more time for the deterrent to be uniformly recognised as a working operation, it would have been another incentive to keep voters loyal to the Conservatives.

    It's funny how it's only with this election that I've come to clearly see the flaws of the First Past the Post system - only 20% of the UK's population voted for Labour this time round, yet because this 20% was concentrated in specific areas where few people voted for anything else (and especially in Wales which has always been pro-Labour and Scotland where everyone was fed up with the Scottish Nazi Party), and because a lot of Conservative voters were lured away by the Lib Dems and Reform, it resulted in Labour getting as many seats as they did and thus walking away with it. There just aren't enough of a concentration of voters for any other party than the big two to really make a difference in individual regions of the country.

    If we were using the European Proportional Representation system, on the other hand, things would have got a lot more interesting as votes would have been counted across the country rather than in individual constituencies, and Labour's position wouldn't have been nearly as strong. Then though it would become a contest of who is willing to form a coalition with who... which may not necessarily be a bad thing as some of the more obscure parties would be able to add new ideas into the pools of the main two, but it would give more of a foothold to extremist parties on either side of the spectrum as it has done in Europe. More democratic, yes... whether it would be a full-on improvement in how we are governed though is a mystery. At least we wouldn't be bound to US-style two-party politics.

    Overall though, while we're not as badly off as America in who to vote for (a partly senile has-been vs a convicted felon and corporate bully boy... wouldn't like to have to make that choice), we still didn't have much to choose from:
    • Conservatives - Rishi had a plan... probably not as pivotal as it should have been but it would have been progress. He still would have needed to deal with the backstabbing within his own party though to be able to keep going.
    • Labour - We already know what I've had to say about them :p
    • Lib Dems - While Ed Davey seemed nice enough, he's far too fixated on the so-called 'crisis' of social care, also spent far too much time slinging mud at the Conservatives and not enough time formulating a plan for the nation, and had no interest in dealing with our most important issue of defence of the realm.
    • Reform UK - While we are in need of a healthy dose of national patriotism to combat the woke government institutions, Mr. Farage was willing to blame NATO for the War in Ukraine... anyone who isn't directly opposed to Putin and his neo-Nazi regime certainly should not be given the keys to No. 10.
    • The Green Party - A bunch of naive hippies that completely fail to understand that we can't change all our energy generation methods to eco-friendly alternatives with just a click of our fingers, don't seem to realise how unreliable solar and wind power are in this country (wave and tidal power are the way to go for us if we want green alternatives), and would willingly take away our biggest defence against the threats of Russia and China
     
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    That's simply the woke institutions to blame as per usual (thanks Tony Blair's Labour for that one)... I'm sure there must be similar happenings in the US (as it was where wokism as a movement started).

    I wouldn't leave my country even if my life depended upon it... I'm not going to be one of those self-centred expats who wilfully abandon their country just so their own pockets are filled a bit more or because they 'want better weather' (have fun with the boiling heat of a Spanish summer, and the deadly wildlife of Australia) or marry a foreigner (Why? People in your own country not good enough for you?).

    Perhaps it's the fires of youth, or perhaps it's because I'm a 25-year old who has the mentality of a man double that age, but I will not abandon my country, especially if its times get harder.

    However if my area became too dangerous to live in for whatever reason, there are some avenues of escape (though I'd be reluctant to leave the house in which I have spent virtually my entire life):
    • My family and I live on the south coast of England, not far from the Isle of Wight, a smaller island with a slower pace of life, a vast majority white British population and a stronghold of our native Red Squirrels. I'd be happy to live there if we really had to abandon our current home.
    • I have a Great Uncle and Great Aunt who live in Cornwall, one of the most westerly regions of the UK which is also very much a backwater. I wouldn't mind staying with them one bit if the whole of Hampshire and the Isle of Wight were under threat for any reason. Cornwall has largely remained isolated from the rest of the UK even nowadays... if anything does threaten the UK, Cornwall is probably one of the places it'll be least interested in (alongside Scotland).
    • My father has an old Navy friend who lives on one of the Orkney Islands off Scotland, we could always stay with him if he was willing to have us. The weather would be by far the worst of the three options and it'd be a haven for midges, but it's also a haven for other wildlife and the Orcadians as a group are, like their cousins in the Shetland Islands, refreshingly unamused by the antics of the mainland Scots.

    Overall though I hope that this latest election result will simply show people Labour's true ineptitude and the population can vote them out in about 5 years' time.
     
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    I think that's underplaying a lot of the conservative policies that people feel have gotten them to this point.

    I think it's fair to say a decent chunk of the Western world are deeply unhappy with their current situation, regardless of political party.

    I do not think either side has done s good enough job of pushing forward policies that help alleviate the everyday stressors of life that just seems to continue to get worse.

    I think when faced with that situation it's only natural to place blame at the party that's been in charge of your countries policies for the better part of the last two decades.

    People are tired of the political grand standing (regardless of who is doing it) while nothing of note gets done. Scalenex post I think drives that point home. Powers at be position everyday people like us against each other so they can continue to take from us and put into their own pockets, while nothing substantial changes to make our lives easier and better. Isn't that what should be happening?

    I think sweeping, fundamental changes are necessary to ensure the Western world doesn't sink further and further into oligarchy than it already is. Everyday we move closer to a china-esque scenario. I think the billionaires and bought-and-paid for politicians in the western world just need to play a little more under the table. But it's all the same. They are clearly keen on making their own lives easier. It would be nice to have a slice of that pie.

    Sorry for the tangent. I know it isn't related to the thread topic. It's actually why I have such a logical issue with "wokism" just seems like a convenient way to make people mad about relatively small concerns while they continue to tighten their stranglehold on larger issues.

    Healthcare, property rights, freedoms of speech, spending power, access to education. Everyday these things erode under our feet and no one seems to be doing anything about it.

    Yeah, it's just very frustrating. Anyways it was nice hanging out for a bit :) until next time!
     
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    I used to think like this. But there is a problem that people taking drastic or symbolic actions out of desperation, for change, any change, are likely to make things worse not better.

    For the record, I care about the environment a lot. I think most environmental activists are fools. The Democrats will block pipelines to symbolically show that they are helping climate change.

    It doesn't actually mean less oil is being pumped from the ground. Instead of being piped from Canada to the US, it has to be moved on trains to a sea port and than shipped on an oil tanker. That increases Carbon emissions. Then the oil gets shipped to a refinery outside the United States to a 3rd world country with fewer regulations on their refineries.

    Electric cars really grind my gears. The rare earth and copper components of their batteries are predominantly mined from CCP front companies exploiting Africans and Chinese minorities in virtually slave-like conditions via pollution intense strip mines and then you still end up releasing the Carbon Dioxide anyway to power the grid to run the electric cars.

    Here's a nine minute explanation of how woke neo-Marxist policies to make people poorer will not help the environment.

    But this isn't limited to environmentalism, it is just more obvious that emotionally driven knee-jerk change for change's sake often has the opposite effect intended.

    There is strong evidence the Diversity Equity and Inclusion exacerbates racism, sexism, and the various other bad isms more than it alleviates them.

    In fact, academic research suggests that the phrase "trigger warning" before saying something controversial actually makes people more pissed off than simply blindsiding someone with a controversial statement.
     

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