Alright, so I've been going up against a buddy who plays Orkz, and I've found with my current lists that...well I'm not strong enough. I can win easily by points due to my mobility (and a Dread Saurian to keep him distracted), but I thought I'd try a more....up close approach. So here we go Allegiance: Seraphon LEADERS Saurus Sunblood (120) - Artefact : Blade of Realities Slann Starmaster (260) - General - Command Trait : Vast Intellect - Artefact : Incandescent Rectrices Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (280) - Artefact : Coronal Shield Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (240) - Warblade UNITS 40 x Saurus Warriors (360) -Clubs 40 x Saurus Warriors (360) -Clubs 10 x Saurus Warriors (100) -Clubs BATTALIONS Fangs of Sotek (100) Sunclaw Starhost (130) TOTAL: 1950/2000 WOUNDS: 128 LEADERS: 4/6 BATTLELINES: 3 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 2/4 ARTILLERY: 0/4 Alright, so what do y'all think? Really the idea is to charge straight in and smack face, of course this list works best against the multi wound Battleline units, such as Ork Brutes and the likes. Where the Carnosaurs Bloodroar ability can shine....twice! The idea is to have the whole army as one tight nit unit, the Saurus really need to back up the Carnos so they dont get surrounded, and the Saurus need to go in and deal with enemy priority units. Mr Frog is just here to buff, Vast intellect to give some more options, no point teleporting both Carnos in somewhere and suddenly it gets swarmed. Charge in but do it together. Lastly Sunblood takes all the buffs under the sun.....yeah, lets the Oldblood yell at him to get extra attacks while we pray he rolls those sweet 6's for maximum effort.