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"Streaky" paint

Discussion in 'Painting and Converting' started by Mark Sinosich, Jun 1, 2017.

  1. Mark Sinosich
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    https://www.instagram.com/p/BUyzgLIh5K1/?taken-by=msinosic

    Can anyone tell me why my paint is "streaky". Look at the yellow I have tried to paint over the top of the orange. You can see on the tail and other sections that the yellow is not an even coat. It is very thin, because its yellow.

    The paint doesn't feel thick or drying up but with that said is it not wet enough? too wet? I give it a good shake and also mix it with my brush on the palette... Is it not mixed well enough with the pigment and medium?

    I feel like I might be putting too much on and that's streaky lines of thicker paint and thinner bits that are almost totally translucent.

    Thoughts? I am a noob painter so help is welcome! ... no.. required!
     
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    I know this problem... not only with yellow... ;)
    I usually solve it by painting more layers of the color... carefully thinned down more than average...
     
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    A combination of a few things really.

    Painting over orange will take a few coats but as you suspected you have tried to coat it in one resulting in a streaky finish.
    Paint thin layers to build up the colour this will result in a smooth and crisp finish.

    Try painting over it again but don't load your brush with a lot of paint just the tip but use the correct size brush around a size 2 I reckon, also a good quality brush will lay the paint better than a poor one.
     
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    Sometimes you can also use a glaze (in your case yellow) to soften it up a bit.
     
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  5. Mark Sinosich
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    glaze is a more watered down paint?

    ok so i will add another layer or two of yellow. I dont think it will look bad if i do. I need to use the detail brush not the fine detail brush.. i think i was too small. make sure i dont load up the brush... keep it really thin... and add a few drops of water to the paint and really make sure its wet and smooth.

    i though the paint was ok but to be honest im just getting back into painting. i can tell when it starts to to gluggy and thick and when its not mixed with medium and pigment... but i dont think that means nice and smooth necessarily.

    thanks guys. will see how it goes tomorrow.
     
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    Try a softer brush if you have one.
    like something for watercolor paints.
     
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  7. Mark Sinosich
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    The GW brushes are no good? I think its their standard detail and fine detail brush that I have been using.
     
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    They aren't bad, or anything.
    But there does exist a wider
    variety of brushes out there.
    that GW does not supply.
     
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    Kolinsky Sable ;) I like the short.. long tip feels unwieldy.

    Thanks will try it out.
     
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    Windsor and Newton Series 7 the brush of gods...
     
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    yes, yes the famed Excalibur of detail brushes... :p
     
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    Once tried never forgotten
     
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    I recently tried a artist brush I bought last year for under 3€... bought it in an artist store where I usually but my pens (why does autocorrect add an 'i' before the 's'?!) for drawing plans... it's a difference like day and night compared to what you get from getting or in other game stores... 1496332546792833979344.jpg
     
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    What paint are you using?

    Yellow is notorious for being difficult, so you're going to need a lot of thin layers to get it working well over another colour. Personally I would have gone with a very strong white before adding the yellow over the top, always gets the best results for me.

    Are you thinning at all? Wet pallet? Water or medium for thinning?
     
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  15. Mark Sinosich
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    Water thinning. Army painter mega paint set.

    Yes. I know yellow is notorious. Its not about yellow in particular. It happens with all colours for me.
     
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    I've never used army painter, but it could be the way the paint is reacting with the water... You could try thinning with some other medium instead, GW sell an overpriced one in a little pot, lahmian medium... but any will do from a paint supply store. Winsor & Newton do a massive pot which will last you a lifetime for £7.99.
     
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    Don't thin the Army Painter colors too much, they are not as thick as GW's ones. A wet palette works well though. I use Army Painter colors almost exclusively (very few exceptions where I got some GW colors). Water for thinning is OK but don't overdo it.

    And yes, definitely a layer of white before you paint the lighter colors like leather brown, dragon red, or yellow, then they become really nice with two layers or so.
     
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    I don't think I thin too much. Will keep an eye on it. Usually just a drop or two on the end of the brush mixed in with 1-2-3 blobs of paint from the dropper depending on how many and how much I am going to paint on.

    I've not tried a wet palette yet but looked up how to make one. Looks quite useful.

    Painting white underneath certainly seems like something I need to do. Especially for yellow and red as you say. I've not had to much issue with other colours going on in 2 thin coats. See the blue from my saurus shields for example.
     
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    Pretty much everybody paint is thinner than gw's.
    Unless you are working with tube acrylics for some reason.
     
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    Fun thing: I love the GW colors for drybrushing because they are so thick. And they cover really well. But then they tend to glob over small stuff if you are not careful and thin them properly.
    So everything has their downsides I guess. I met people who call Army Painter "bad colors that don't cover properly" and I was like "All my models are painted with those..." Priceless faces. :D
     
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