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AoS NEW *rumor*

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Logan8054, Jan 28, 2019.

  1. xoid
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    xoid Well-Known Member

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    According to GW support they are working on getting the White Dwarf stuff in the app, which is definitely needed.
     
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  2. Killer Angel
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    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    That would be nice. Or better, mandatory. :p
     
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  3. PabloTho
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    What are you talking about? I'm looking at the SCE and Orruk warscrolls right now.

    I don't own either of those tomes, btw.
     
  4. Dread Saurian
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    I don't own either of those and can't see either
     
  5. Killer Angel
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    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    Anyway, wahapedia is back to full efficiency. Horray! :)
     
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  6. Putzfrau
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    the warscrolls or the tomes?

    Warscrolls are in the app. tomes (battle traits, artefacts, etc) are not.

    you might wanna double check the app because the warscrolls are on it.
     
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  7. Dread Saurian
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    I do not see them forgive my eyes I cannot find them to save my life but I can buy the rulebooks for them
    I'll just give the app a break
     
  8. Putzfrau
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    Might want to reinstall, all warscrolls are in the app with no tome purchase needed. I'm looking at them right now and don't own either of the new tomes.
     
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  9. Canas
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    meh.. if only it wasn't a mobile-first app with all the horrible consequences that has for UI and readability... the pdfs were/are so much nicer to read.
     
  10. Shane_Y
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    The people that can't see them, did you download the new app when they changed it? The old app doesn't support anything new added to the database iirc.
     
  11. Canas
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    Canas Ninth Spawning

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    Nurgle is going to be spreading desease, which seems like a reasonably interesting mechanic.
    Though the amount of counterplay seems rather limited, maybe if opponents had some way to heal the deseases as well that would be good.
     
  12. Erta Wanderer
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    well crap thats a lot of MWs. pretty easy to get 4-7 MW a turn with both battle shock phases they are just going to shred heroes.
     
  13. Canas
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    yeah, that's my main concern, it stacks up very quickly, a single unit of cannonfodder like nurglings can easily get 3-4 points of disease on something simply by walking up to a target and rolling one or two sixes during combat.

    It's very thematic, and seems fun for the Nurgle player, but given how slowly the points drop again that means you can easily be doing 3-4 MW/turn on a priority target by simply tagging it with some cheap fodder every turn and keeping the desease points up.
     
  14. ninjakeso
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    I think it seems very thematic, which is cool. But very strong.

    But it does drop very quickly down to one, however, it stays...
     

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  15. Canas
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    ah misread it as "drop by one" sorry

    Not sure if it makes much of a difference though, keeping it at 4-ish points should not still not be terribly difficult by just sending in waves of fodder to tag a priority target.

    Also, it basicly guarantees Nurgle will win any matchup where it's fodder v.s. fodder as Nurgle fodder will be outdamaging basicly everything of comparable value.

    Very thematic and interesting. But I'm really curious what is going to be the downside to nurgle to counterbalance it given how powerfull this will be in a lot of situations.
     
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    Given their current state, I'm guessing they won't be very "killy" outside of the disease mechanic. This is just the first thing that popped into my head, but I would imagine that their playstyle will be continuing to rely on their disgustingly resilient rule to sit on objectives and try to out-tank the enemy while wearing them down through disease the whole time.
     
  17. Killer Angel
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    Well, we already knew that GW in this edition is pumping MWs.
    The mechanic is interesting and thematic. The additional disease points on 6s may be strong, especially given that they will be available to many nurgle units. But are not auto wounds, you must still roll 4+, so on average "only" 50%.
    If you compare it to abilities that on 6s inflict automatic MWs...
     
  18. Putzfrau
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    You're vastly overstating how much damage this can do, assuming there aren't other abilities that get you around the 7 cap or 4+ activation.

    Taking 3-4 mortals on a handful of units in a best case scenario is pretty meh.
     
  19. erians
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    Yeah it doesnt stand out as super strong. Basically a 0.5 MW procc on 6s with the upside of getting some free proccs on various effects and the big downside that its capped on 7. It might be strong if there are other bonuses attached to the desiese mechanic but on its own it seems to be a lot weaker than a lot of other faction traits.
     
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  20. Canas
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    If you look at this on something big like say an unclean one, it is indeed rather meh.
    But stick it on some cheap MSU screen and it becomes significantly more usefull as cheap screens normally don't really do any significant damage. So even 1-2 MW per turn on a basic fodder unit is potentially quite usefull in certain scenarios. Especially as it also spreads passivly by just standing next to a nurgle model, making 2-3 disease points per turn (and thus 1-2 MW) fairly likely even with terrible attack stats.

    Essentially, I'm just curious what's going to be the drawback. Are all nurlge units going to have terrible stats to compensate for having this baseline? Is everything going to be really expensive like the lumineth who also spam MW on their basic MSU? Something else?
     

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