8th Ed. Only the 8th...

Hear hear - as I see it, Tony is by far the most valuable/important character in the MCU

 

I'd agree that they both had moral standing in Civil War, at least in the short term. In the long term though, Stark's fears and vision were proven to be correct. Additionally, while he did take risks that had unfortunate consequences (Ultron), the events of Infinity War and Endgame ultimately justified his course of action. The heroes of the story would have been better off following his lead.

 

To be honest either playing 7th and forcing Daemons to use the Warriors spell lores like in 8th (as they toned down the magic for the Warriors book after seeing what happened with Daemons) and restricting Dark Elves from using their Power Dice-spamming spell, or playing 8th with some boosts applied to the underpowered armies are both fine ways to play the game. Neither Edition is difficult to tweak to achieve a strong balance without sacrificing the fun parts (indeed I cross-associate balance with fun).

Warhammer Armies Project is no longer a valid way to play 8th Edition - like the Ninth Age before him, Eliasson has been drawn into making his own Ninth Edition and has dropped all support for his 8th army books. Something I'm in a lot of ways pleased about because it means my 8th Edition army lists no longer need to compete with his.

In other words, AoS won the battle of 2015, but TOW will likely help Warhammer Fantasy to win the war. Something I can definitely get behind.

 

Wait... how was Stark "right" based on Civil War?

 

Time will tell I suppose.

Personally I'm happy with focusing on the retired but reliable 8th edition WFB. I have no interest in jumping on board with GW's hyper-aggressive (bordering on pay-to-win) release schedule.

 

Fair enough. I was discussing the topic purely from the vantage point of the MCU.

My claim was that he was right based on the events of Infinity War and Endgame...




Stark's ideas were informed by long term thinking/planning. He saw what others did not. He was focused on the greater threat and was willing to take risks and accept consequences to protect against the much more dangerous evil lurking around the corner.

 

Okay. This isn't really the thread to discuss this, but I'm at least more clear on where you're coming from.

 

I find some of the very best forum discussions are those that form spontaneously (in the wrong thread). You are correct though. Poor @Lizards of Renown will return to the forum only to find his beloved thread sidetracked.

Likening AoS to phase 4 of the M-SHE-U... that's savage! Even I wouldn't go that far.

 

I feel I should probably move to the inner circle. Although my preferred mass battle game is 8th, I have a weekly DnD session, am massively into bloodbowl (have played non stop since 2nd edition, even in the 'wilderness years'), also play 40k occasionally and Heroquest (normal with the kids and Advanced HQ with some mates). I also dabble a bit in KOW, though not that often and will be trying out another fantasy ruleset called Fantastic Battles. I'm also just starting to rebuild some warmaster armies.

 

10-4 big guy. You’re still one of the Knights and we’re glad to have you.

 

+1000

 

A sign of life!!!
(good to see you are around once in a while, mate)

Grrr, !mrahil