You dont think people will just run Katakros Praetorians? People were already playing Katakros and in Praetorians they get a huuuge +1 save bubble.Unless we see a heavy shift to Cav variations I think the lists will be very similar (shit ton of 3+ rerollable infantry). We could always just counter it with a CP, and most lists generate a good amount of them. I guess there aren't any really fantastic spells in the skink lore anyway, so I guess it becomes a good choice against LRL. This is a bit of a RLR sidetrack but I played a few proxy games as LRL and didn't find Cathallars to have a massive impact on my opponents army, they were more useful for avoiding -1 bravery and ignoring BS. Too many hoops to jump through: - My unit can't get completely wiped, but enough need to die for the bouncing BS to be dangerous - Target needs to have taken casualties - Need to roll a 2+ - Opponent can't have any CPs - Opponent can't have BS immunity, which is pretty darn common They seem nuts on paper, and when they work they can be amazing, but most of the time you either manage to just ping a small amount of models of the board or you just drain 1 CP off your opponent (which I guess is pretty neat). Obviously needs more testing but that's my initial experience.