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The looming excitement that might be TW warhammer II

Discussion in 'General Hobby/Tabletop Chat' started by The Sauric Ace, Mar 9, 2017.

  1. Canas
    Slann

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    you're implying you have mutiple tablets, he won't stay quiet if he figures that out...
     
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  2. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
    Slann

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    You mean 'IF' he figures that out...

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    That's gold!
     
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  4. Canas
    Slann

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    Tell me what happenend to those two grunts? ^^
     
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    Yes, given that I'm offering openly to aid them on their ancient duty, in any way I can.

    Or not. Who are we, mere mortals, to know the desing of the Great Plan?
     
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    Slann

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    But what value is a warrior who won't hold the line and will instead break immediately when coming up against resistance?

     
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    Slann

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    THe enemy will be enticed into riding them down when they show their back so they'l be pre-occupied while you counter-attack. Kind of like how people kept goats who fainted when they saw a wolf so the other goats wouldn't be eaten.
     
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    Skinks. You are describing skinks. ;)
     
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    In actual war, having troops break (unless it is planned and part of a specific strategy, i.e. feigned retreat) is a bad thing. That's how armies get routed.
     
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    Slann

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    I know, but I remember some situations were weaker less veteran troops were specificly fielded against the opponents more elite troops so that the opponent would inevitably push forward as the weaker troops were being defeated (and almost routed) leaving them overextended and vulnerable for your own stronger troops. You could use him for something like that :p The expectation was that a certain part would rout and that others would take advantage of the enemy overextending.

    Think it was the thebians in some battle but not sure which. Usually phalanx formations had the more experience warriors on one side, they explicitly swapped this for te afforementioned purpose so that the enemy would overextend with their stronger troops (while their own elite troops purposely held back)
     
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    So cannon fodder? LOL
     
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    Slann

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    Nah, cannonfodder is there to eat damage, what I mean is more the the lure in a trap. They don't actually need to suffer any significant losses, just offer a "valuable" and easy target for the opponent to chase.

    Basicly, cannonfodder still has to achieve things, be it taking bullets to the face so the enemy runs out of ammo or just doing some suicide mission on which you don't want to waste actually capable troops, the ones I mean don't actually need to do anything other than lose and entice the enemy into focussing and chasing them and thus overextending.
     
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    That whole system fails though if the enemy holds their ground. Now you have your lines breaking, while they maintain formation.

    At the end of the day, you need reliable warriors. Ones that flee too easily are of limited use. If you have two equally led armies (general, arms, training), the one with greater psychological fortitude will claim victory more often than not.
     
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    Much or nothing, if that's how the Great Plan declares.
     
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    Well the basic idea is simply to offer up a weak point to draw in the enemy so you know where they go and set up traps accordingly. It is a possible use for troops that are more liable to break. You can't count on them standing their ground for long, so might as well incorperate their inevitable defeat & retreat into your strategy. It's simply a possible use for our coward seeing as you only really have 3 options.

    1. Put him in a vastly superiour force so he won't rout
    2. Incorperate his rout/defeat into your strategy
    3. Put him in a place where fleeing is impossible.
    Ultimatly you'd still prefer more reliable troops, but at least this way our coward has some use :p

    Also, more reliable troops could pull of the same strategy but with an organized retreat instead of a full on route.

    Also, if it's not a trick opponents will fall for multiple times in quick succesion. So you better have another tactic for the next battle :p.
     
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    The problem is that cowardice can breed more cowardice. If you are to pull an enemy line out of formation, you're still better off with controlled troops.
     
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    Yup controlled & reliable troops will Always be better, but sometimes you'l have to make due.
     
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    They survived.

    Besides, Grunts are Orcs from Warcraft 3 and that's Hercules not Warcraft 3
     
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    yes but didn't they get hurt quite badly in the process?

    They're still grunts.. low level bad guys.. just not the orcish kind....
     
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    Well...
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    Not really...
     
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